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  • tec966
    Technician
    • Mar 2009
    • 40

    6053ci Print issue

    Good morning,
    we ask you if you have any suggestions for the attached problem (white vertical stripes)?
    You can see it well in full solid colors.
    We have already replaced these parts:
    all the dev unit and drum unit
    LSU
    HVT Board
    Transfer Belt unit
    Thanks in advice !
    Attached Files
  • tmaged
    Owner/Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2008
    • 1813

    #2
    Re: 6053ci Print issue

    Heads-up: 7353ci CQ light bands OOB or after service
    Hope that helps !
    -Tony
    www.dtios.com
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    • dalewb74
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Feb 2018
      • 1064

      #3
      Re: 6053ci Print issue

      did you run the maintenance modes afterwards? so that it knows it has new parts. did you run any calibrations?

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      • PrintWhisperer
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Feb 2018
        • 434

        #4
        Re: 6053ci Print issue

        Looks like gear lash from worn drive pack.

        Run U89 grey print of cmyk and see if pattern is less prominent in K vs others. (Different drive motor/gear train)
        "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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        • KYO_OEM
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Aug 2011
          • 636

          #5
          Re: 6053ci Print issue

          Looks like wrong DV voltages.
          All needed adjustments would done?
          Please share U000/ maintenance report (*.txt file)
          Check U140

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          • tec966
            Technician
            • Mar 2009
            • 40

            #6
            Re: 6053ci Print issue

            Originally posted by PrintWhisperer
            Looks like gear lash from worn drive pack.

            Run U89 grey print of cmyk and see if pattern is less prominent in K vs others. (Different drive motor/gear train)


            Thanks for your reply, the thin vertical lines are both on colors and gray, we did a U021 reset and all the MK adjustment...(U952 etc..)

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            • PrintWhisperer
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Feb 2018
              • 434

              #7
              Re: 6053ci Print issue

              Originally posted by tec966
              Thanks for your reply, the thin vertical lines are both on colors and gray, we did a U021 reset and all the MK adjustment...(U952 etc..)
              Perhaps Paper drive is affected and not image drive.

              Waste toner auger is driven from PF drive. Check for build-up or difficult rotation of auger drive gear where PF drive engages, the WT clogging is common issue.
              "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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              • tec966
                Technician
                • Mar 2009
                • 40

                #8
                Re: 6053ci Print issue

                Originally posted by PrintWhisperer
                Perhaps Paper drive is affected and not image drive.

                Waste toner auger is driven from PF drive. Check for build-up or difficult rotation of auger drive gear where PF drive engages, the WT clogging is common issue.

                The issue is visible on the belt, so i think is not a papre feed problem...

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                • KYO_OEM
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 636

                  #9
                  Re: 6053ci Print issue

                  It is difficult to analyse from the shared picture.
                  Please share U089/ color belt + U000/ maintenance report.
                  If i would called for help, i always ask for reports and internal printouts..
                  What do you think why it would implemented from japanese engineers?
                  It's easier for analysing problems like yours.

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                  • PrintWhisperer
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 434

                    #10
                    Re: 6053ci Print issue

                    Originally posted by tec966
                    The issue is visible on the belt, so i think is not a papre feed problem...
                    Good info to include in original post (panic stop observation), this is in area before transfer operation (underside) or after transfer (topside)?

                    Get those U89 samples and Maint. Report. (Help us help you)

                    Still, check Waste toner bottle to insure it rotates while engine cycles with WT door switch cheated. Common issue of WT bottle non-rotation can clog TX belt cleaner as well as rear auger.

                    Ensure TX belt setting procedure is performed (MM469 Belt Initialize)
                    "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22698

                      #11
                      Re: 6053ci Print issue

                      Try this original:
                      Attached Files
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • TECHKYO
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Re: 6053ci Print issue

                        Originally posted by tec966
                        Good morning,
                        we ask you if you have any suggestions for the attached problem (white vertical stripes)?
                        You can see it well in full solid colors.
                        We have already replaced these parts:
                        all the dev unit and drum unit
                        LSU
                        HVT Board
                        Transfer Belt unit
                        Thanks in advice !
                        i had i same issues but 5551ci i used U053 motor speed and its was ok but note that i contact kyocera and they says this is normal because machine is high speed model ????
                        Hope this will help
                        Thanks

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                        • PrintWhisperer
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 434

                          #13
                          Re: 6053ci Print issue

                          Originally posted by TECHKYO
                          i had i same issues but 5551ci i used U053 motor speed and its was ok but note that i contact kyocera and they says this is normal because machine is high speed model ????
                          Hope this will help
                          Thanks
                          Oh my goodness yes and thank you for your post. In my previous post I mentioned 'Gear lash' but didn't really explain it in context. It is a tiny delay in speed as the force on each gear tooth varies through it's rotation.

                          So, most of your are familiar with those big round metal disks they have on many copier motors involved in driving image components?

                          Well, not to steal a Star Trek phrase, but those are 'Inertial Dampeners' designed to help motors overcome uneven torque loads in the components they drive.

                          Well this series has none and uses drive packs for color DV/Drums with plastic gears and can be a bit cloggy in the waste area, all leading to some rather less than even driving. The TX belt shares drive with the K DV and so a K problem can effect the TX belt and so forth.

                          New components can be a bit stiff, or clogged ones can become tougher to drive, leading to loads which do not allow smooth imaging, and I suppose this is worse with higher speed.

                          Kind of like us old techs trying to climb stairs with bad knees. (Not to say these machines are like that)

                          If it's new, break it in. If it's old, clean it. If it was rebuilt, reseat it. If you must lube, stick to gears driven off the pack or motor only and get (PN 7BG010009H GREASE MOLYKOTE EM-50LP 50G) Lubricate EM-50LP on gear in case of noise.

                          "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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                          • Copier Mechanic
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Mar 2023
                            • 89

                            #14
                            Re: 6053ci Print issue

                            Originally posted by tec966
                            Good morning,
                            we ask you if you have any suggestions for the attached problem (white vertical stripes)?
                            You can see it well in full solid colors.
                            We have already replaced these parts:
                            all the dev unit and drum unit
                            LSU
                            HVT Board
                            Transfer Belt unit
                            Thanks in advice !

                            Any updates on this problem? did you fixed it?

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                            • Ropariva
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 589

                              #15

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