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  • blue4fun
    Technician
    • Nov 2007
    • 19

    #1

    solid black copies help!

    Kyocera 4050, copies slolid black whole page,try initialize 906, check main charge and drum unit ok, any idea please help.
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22845

    #2
    Whar does a U000 Maintenance Report look like? Solid black or normal?

    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • just a tech
      Service Manager

      250+ Posts
      • Jan 2007
      • 333

      #3
      had a copystar 5050 last week giving black copies and internal prints. thought it was the engine board due to improper volts from connector "yc7"-pin#4 when running maint. mode 100. (main charge on). we put an engine board in and downloaded current firmware. copier worked for a day and started the black copies/prints again. gutted copier and found nothing apparently wrong-- no signs of arcing, no burnt wires, nothing..after working with it for a good bit, i noticed that during the times when i was getting good copy/prints, i could run maint. mode 100 and all sounded good.. BUT- when i was getting black copies, and running maint. mode 100, i would here a high pitched squeel. replaced the drum ass'y(with main charge unit) and problem solved. turns out the main charge unit was arcing internally..good luck

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      • blue4fun
        Technician
        • Nov 2007
        • 19

        #4
        thank you for good info guys.

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        • nathansipe
          just another tech

          100+ Posts
          • Aug 2009
          • 122

          #5
          same problem

          I have the same trouble on KM-4050. I went last week and found toner covering the front end of the grid, so I cleaned it. Fixed it for a week or so now they have called back. I will try to order a main charge unit if i can and see what that does. More suggestions are welcome.
          Best rule for troubleshooting.
          K I S S Keep It Simple Stupid

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          • Craigdumass
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 61

            #6
            Replace the main charge unit, clean the two filters by the bypass, blow out your seperation grid, and you will be good to go for another 100k as long as you have no tiny little pit holes in the drum unit, then you have to throw a new drum in it.

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            • HmkPrinterTech
              Technician
              • Sep 2008
              • 21

              #7
              This is a voltage issue with the main charger. A build up of toner will cause a short. About a 50/50 chance a new charger will fix it. Replace the drum if you still have unacceptable output.

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              • Craigdumass
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Jun 2009
                • 61

                #8
                I kind of thought that was what I just said, except the toner build up comes from not cleaning out your two dust filters by the bypass, the problem is that heat builds up in the machine and causes the toner to stick to the main charge grid. Hence it starts shorting out.

                Furthermore I am not sure about this website, wether it is plagued with technicians that are not Kyocera or Copystar trained technicians. I have noticed some customers even blogging on this site. I hate helping a dealership that is not an authorized dealer and furthermore I hate getting stuck working on a machine that some fly by night copier technician just got done working on.

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                • aabarnes1
                  Senior Tech
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 620

                  #9
                  black strip on the scan glass
                  Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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                  • leroyal
                    Expert on The Obsolete
                    100+ Posts
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Craigdumass
                    I kind of thought that was what I just said, except the toner build up comes from not cleaning out your two dust filters by the bypass, the problem is that heat builds up in the machine and causes the toner to stick to the main charge grid. Hence it starts shorting out.

                    Furthermore I am not sure about this website, wether it is plagued with technicians that are not Kyocera or Copystar trained technicians. I have noticed some customers even blogging on this site. I hate helping a dealership that is not an authorized dealer and furthermore I hate getting stuck working on a machine that some fly by night copier technician just got done working on.
                    Why don't you tell us how you really feel?....Lighten up.
                    I know what I know better than anyone else knows what I know.

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                    • aabarnes1
                      Senior Tech
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 620

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Craigdumass
                      I kind of thought that was what I just said, except the toner build up comes from not cleaning out your two dust filters by the bypass, the problem is that heat builds up in the machine and causes the toner to stick to the main charge grid. Hence it starts shorting out.

                      Furthermore I am not sure about this website, wether it is plagued with technicians that are not Kyocera or Copystar trained technicians. I have noticed some customers even blogging on this site. I hate helping a dealership that is not an authorized dealer and furthermore I hate getting stuck working on a machine that some fly by night copier technician just got done working on.
                      DUMASS being the operative word, what happenend with you mf, take it easy, this is a forum for people to HELP each other. I get the feeling that if you had a kalshnikov 7.62 we would have a maysacre on our gd hands
                      Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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                      • 10871087
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1144

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Craigdumass
                        I hate getting stuck working on a machine that some fly by night copier technician just got done working on.



                        Send them to me, I love billing people.

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                        • aabarnes1
                          Senior Tech
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 620

                          #13
                          I REALLY wanna know what 'fly by night' means?
                          Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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                          • nathansipe
                            just another tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 122

                            #14
                            I ordered a new drum unit with charger since it only has 140k and is under warranty. The toner is coming from the front seal for the drum. The end of the drum was caked so this should take care of it. If not, it doesnt matter, Im on vacation for 2 weeks for the birth of my first daughter. They can worry about it now.
                            Best rule for troubleshooting.
                            K I S S Keep It Simple Stupid

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                            • HmkPrinterTech
                              Technician
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 21

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nathansipe
                              I ordered a new drum unit with charger since it only has 140k and is under warranty. The toner is coming from the front seal for the drum. The end of the drum was caked so this should take care of it. If not, it doesnt matter, Im on vacation for 2 weeks for the birth of my first daughter. They can worry about it now.
                              Awesome! Grats Nathan!

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