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  • vlad_robas
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    • Oct 2006
    • 225

    #1

    Sharp AR-235 dumping dev

    Hello agaian,
    I don't have all record's about this machine but since i know it it had this problem. It has now 190k at about 100k sombody refiled cartridge then i was called, it had all developer gone thru all copier so i put a new dev and toner. Then afther about 10k was runing low on dev again so i changed the dev unit, but the dev didn't stop spreading thru copier so i go far and replace the drum unit and drum. Afther that quiet till few week's ago when we had to change the poligonal motor, i asked here about the code, and we see again developer all over the place. I have no ideea what to do next. I looked at the 8 values and they seem to be ok. Never done a firmware update on this.

    In attachement is a printed document and it's back which has dev on it.
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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
    • 22995

    #2
    The drum unit should have resolved this for you. The drum unit had a new primary charger, yes? That is what usually causes developer dumping on the Gazelle and Leopard series machines. It was more common on the Gazelle (AR-M208N), but in our case we had 5 Gazelles that were too small for the amout of copy volume, all in one building. Are you using OEM developer and toner? I seem to recall reading something about a problem with charge contacts on the door. Wazza, do you have any documentation on this? =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • vlad_robas
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      • Oct 2006
      • 225

      #3
      I'm not 100% sure about the new charging unit but for sure i put clean one back then (i use to reuse them by washing-is that wrong?). The one that i changed these days was realy realy messy, there is smoking in the next office. Should i try to put a brand new MC and a developer?



      PS. this is valuable, i got a reply from the master himself

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      • blackcat4866
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        #4
        Before you change the developer again please run simulation 25-01. What value does it stir at?
        I clean and re-string the wires on those charge units, but replace at 300k copies or when it starts to dump developer.

        Yes, I would replace the primary charge unit and developer, and run simulation 25-2 and 24-05. What stir value do you get? I would expect a value between 90 and 110 for new developer. =^..^=
        Last edited by blackcat4866; 03-27-2010, 06:01 PM. Reason: running off at the mouth.
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • mtech
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          250+ Posts
          • Mar 2007
          • 307

          #5
          Check the springs on the right door. I had a lot of these with the same problem. Poor contact causes the developer to be pulled out over about 10-15K copies. There was a bulletin about this issue. I would also check or replace the transfer unit. Depending on the age of the machine, make sure the right door is not warped from fuser heat.

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          • vlad_robas
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            • Oct 2006
            • 225

            #6
            The right door clearly it isn't closing very well and is making a bit of noise, forgot to say that ...

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            • OMD-227

              #7
              You guys are right. I know its an old bulletin, but it clearly says the issue is caused by the door or the electrode plate in the transfer roller unit.

              Attaching a few images from the bulletin.

              Hope this helps you.
              Attached Files

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              • tmaged
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                • Oct 2008
                • 1866

                #8
                We use the 310MC main charge unit. Sharp eliminated some teeth on the ends of the saw tooth that was a cause of arcing. Good stuff here !!
                Hope that helps !
                -Tony
                www.dtios.com
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                • vlad_robas
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 225

                  #9
                  ''wazza'' can u please find a better view of this buletin, i cant see the codes... and i don't want to order something that isn't need

                  PS my dealer sent to me a CD with some of the buletin's but this isn't there

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                  • blackcat4866
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                    • Jul 2007
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                    #10
                    vlad,
                    if you vant to see the documents more closely you can download them to your PC.

                    Right-click on the document
                    Save Target As
                    browse to where you would like to save the document
                    Save

                    Now open the document in Windows Picture & Fax Viewer, and you can enlarge the image enough to examine every pixel.

                    You may have a different application to view .JPG files, but I think you get the idea. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • vlad_robas
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                      • Oct 2006
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                      #11
                      hmm.... i already have tryed that and printed too still can't see good enough .... mostly i understood what should i order but i wanted to be 100% sure if is not to much trouble

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                      • OMD-227

                        #12
                        A better view?
                        Attached Files

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                        • vlad_robas
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                          • Oct 2006
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                          #13
                          Much better, i'll update here afther is done. Thank you all.

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                          • vlad_robas
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                            • Oct 2006
                            • 225

                            #14
                            Yesterday i did change those spring's and reinforce plate and i put a new developer that gave me 120 afther running 25-2. I hope he won't dump any developer ever again.
                            Last edited by vlad_robas; 06-02-2010, 12:16 PM.

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                            • rednecktek
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 6

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tmaged
                              We use the 310MC main charge unit. Sharp eliminated some teeth on the ends of the saw tooth that was a cause of arcing. Good stuff here !!
                              This and replacing the seal on the DV unit solves most of the problem for us.

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