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  • slimslob
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    #4606
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by copier addict
    Actually we were discussing the repressive Texas abortion law, but you diverted the conversation
    No big deal, I've had enough for tonight.
    Maybe I'll pick it up tomorrow
    Why do you call the new Texas law repressive? That should ber a clear enough question for even you to understand. Give us your personal thoughts and feelings.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #4607
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by slimslob
      Why do you call the new Texas law repressive? That should ber a clear enough question for even you to understand. Give us your personal thoughts and feelings.
      If you took a minute to read back in the thread a little, you would see why.

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      • bsm2
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        #4608
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Maybe Mr Doom and Gloom Should start a correct new thread on the topic but then nobody would reply

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by slimslob
          Why do you call the new Texas law repressive? That should ber a clear enough question for even you to understand. Give us your personal thoughts and feelings.

          He believes current law in the USA is repressive and wants no restrictions whatsoever. For some reason, he believes women are capable of making the right decision every single time.
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • Copier Addict
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            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            He believes current law in the USA is repressive and wants no restrictions whatsoever. For some reason, he believes women are capable of making the right decision every single time.
            Liar!! I have only said the Texas law is repressive.
            I haven't said they would make the right decision every single time Billy. Who does. In my experience women tend to make the right decision far more than the wrong decision.
            Do you think they ever execute people who aren't guilty in states with capital punishment?

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by copier addict
              Liar!! I have only said the Texas law is repressive.
              I haven't said they would make the right decision every single time Billy. Who does. In my experience women tend to make the right decision far more than the wrong decision.
              Do you think they ever execute people who aren't guilty in states with capital punishment?


              You words don't match your call for action. You said that you don't want any restriction on abortion. Any sane person would draw the conclusion that you think current law is restrictive. You like to make a distinction where there is none for no other reason than you like to argue rather than have a meaningful discussion.

              Likewise, you said that you believe women are capable of making the right choice on abortion. You didn't say "some of the time."


              Please answer: Are you saying that women aren't gonna make the right decision on abortion all the time?
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              • Copier Addict
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                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                You words don't match your call for action. You said that you don't want any restriction on abortion. Any sane person would draw the conclusion that you think current law is restrictive. You like to make a distinction where there is none for no other reason than you like to argue rather than have a meaningful discussion.

                Likewise, you said that you believe women are capable of making the right choice on abortion. You didn't say "some of the time."


                Please answer: Are you saying that women aren't gonna make the right decision on abortion all the time?
                You are the one that said I think US abortion law is repressive. I made that distinction for only Texas. Whether you want to admit that or not isn't my problem.

                Do you think people who are not guilty get executed in states with capital punishment?

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  You are the one that said I think US abortion law is repressive. I made that distinction for only Texas. Whether you want to admit that or not isn't my problem.

                  Do you think people who are not guilty get executed in states with capital punishment?
                  You're trying to deflect the conversation away from abortion and to capital punishment.

                  It's odd that you don't think current law is restrictive but yet you're calling for the law to be changed and for no restrictions. Once again, I don't think you're being totally honest and upfront.

                  When you get in the mood to be totally honest, let me know.
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                  • Copier Addict
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                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    You words don't match your call for action. You said that you don't want any restriction on abortion. Any sane person would draw the conclusion that you think current law is restrictive. You like to make a distinction where there is none for no other reason than you like to argue rather than have a meaningful discussion.

                    Likewise, you said that you believe women are capable of making the right choice on abortion. You didn't say "some of the time."


                    Please answer: Are you saying that women aren't gonna make the right decision on abortion all the time?
                    Look, my personal views don't make any difference in the greater scheme of things. There will be some restrictions placed on abortion, no question. I just think they should be as unrestricted as possible. That's all. To draw the line at six weeks, when most don't even know they are pregnant, is ludicrous.

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                    • Copier Addict
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                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      You're trying to deflect the conversation away from abortion and to capital punishment.

                      It's odd that you don't think current law is restrictive but yet you're calling for the law to be changed and for no restrictions. Once again, I don't think you're being totally honest and upfront.

                      When you get in the mood to be totally honest, let me know.
                      No deflection intended. I was attempting to make a comparison, but you already know that. When you want to be honest, please respond.

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        No deflection intended. I was attempting to make a comparison, but you already know that. When you want to be honest, please respond.


                        You seem to have a problem with the government passing any law that governs abortion. When I ask you why you feel that way, you tell me that you have all this faith in women to make the right choice simply because of their sex. I find that to be out in left field because women can be just as stupid as men. I've met a lot of stupid women in my life. I wouldn't trust them to walk my dog and I don't have a dog.

                        You finally admitted that women don't make the right choice all the time. Once again, that's why we have restrictions on abortion in the USA and almost every country...because women don't make the right decision all the time. That shouldn't offend you as even free speech has restrictions.
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                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          You seem to have a problem with the government passing any law that governs abortion. When I ask you why you feel that way, you tell me that you have all this faith in women to make the right choice simply because of their sex. I find that to be out in left field because women can be just as stupid as men. I've met a lot of stupid women in my life. I wouldn't trust them to walk my dog and I don't have a dog.

                          You finally admitted that women don't make the right choice all the time. Once again, that's why we have restrictions on abortion in the USA and almost every country...because women don't make the right decision all the time. That shouldn't offend you as even free speech has restrictions.

                          And I stand by that statement. As a whole, women tend to make better decisions than men. I have no problem admitting it. Of course there are exceptions. There always are.

                          Are you ready to answer whether you think people who are not guilty ever get executed in states with capital punishment?
                          Come on, you can do it!!

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by copier addict
                            And I stand by that statement. As a whole, women tend to make better decisions than men. I have no problem admitting it. Of course there are exceptions. There always are.

                            Just because you feel that way doesn't make it true and as usual you provide nothing to back it up. I'm just curious how having a vagina makes a person make better decisions.....
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                            • Copier Addict
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                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Just because you feel that way doesn't make it true and as usual you provide nothing to back it up. I'm just curious how having a vagina makes a person make better decisions.....
                              I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with their vaginas.

                              Oh, and I know you are confused. It is quite clear.

                              Do you think people who are not guilty ever get executed in states with capital punishment? You are still avoiding answering. Why is that?

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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Texas Democrat on legality of women LEAVING Texas for abortions (interview with Rep. Gina Hinojosa)


                                Texas Democrat on whether women can LEAVE Texas for abortions (interview with Rep. Gina Hinojosa) - YouTube


                                .. the proper response to help reduce unwanted pregnancies resulting in abortion is increased sex education amongst teens and improved low cost access to birth control devices. These are both things that Texas Republicans are pushing back against.

                                Under new SB8 laws women in Texas who are carrying a baby that is knowingly not medically viable to live outside the womb must go to full term with the baby dying immediately upon birth.

                                Even wealthy Texas women and their daughters are now going to be forced to sneak out of state for medical abortions. This will have a long lasting damaging mental condition forced upon them.
                                Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 09-07-2021, 12:05 AM.

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