Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • wingit
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    • Feb 2011
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    #886
    Give a man a fish he eats for a day,Teach a man to fish he eats for a Life time.

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    • rickncs
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      • Jan 2015
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      #887
      Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

      Xerox 5028 family

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      • kmbthk
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        • Aug 2010
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        #888
        Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

        km c10.c35.

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        • fshead
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          #889
          Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

          As a minolta guy way way back they had a lot of TURDS..ep510,ep710 and then the ones where the power supplies would go all the time"not the 450z which i learned to repair the next series..
          I did like the 450z and the ep310,solid.........It was like nite and day when i switched to sharp boxes and the boards hardly failed and the same on ricohs afterwards...........

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          • copier tech
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            #890
            Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

            Originally posted by kmbthk
            km c10.c35.
            Yeah these are not great too much plastic sadly the new iseries c4050i are the same.
            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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            • euro scott
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              #891
              Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

              Originally posted by fshead
              As a minolta guy way way back they had a lot of TURDS..ep510,ep710 and then the ones where the power supplies would go all the time"not the 450z which i learned to repair the next series..
              I did like the 450z and the ep310,solid.........It was like nite and day when i switched to sharp boxes and the boards hardly failed and the same on ricohs afterwards...........
              Ahh yes, the old cadmium drums,, I carried glass wax in my tool kit for years, and then there was the 350Z,,, sold hundreds of them,,, a turd as well but made lots of money on them..

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              • monarke4
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                #892
                Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                Kramer, Seinfeld "The Rollers, they get flat spots on 'em"

                Yarn | The rollers, they get flat spots on them. ~ Seinfeld (1993) - S08E03 The Bizarro Jerry | Video clips by quotes, clip | 9b4ce72f-ff32-4624-8ce8-d70dc7693b4a | 紗

                Originally posted by jarwil
                have to agree there.

                also the irc3100 for cleaning blade and drum issues. but after a while you get good practice at pulling the machines apart. now can basically do it with my eyes closed

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                • Tech2002
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                  #893
                  Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                  Thanks for the reply!

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                  • monarke4
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                    #894
                    Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                    I discovered this thread and have been reading through it from the first post.

                    Definitely interesting and amusing reading.

                    Don Resor

                    Originally posted by Tech2002
                    Thanks for the reply!

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                    • monarke4
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                      #895
                      Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                      Here is a list of the whole series: 5016, 5018, 5021, 5028, 5034, 5126, 5321, 5328, 5334, 5624, 5626, 5818, 5820, 5824, 5826, 5828, 5830, XC-1875, XC2675

                      Silicone lube pooled under the fuser, what a mess. Plastics incredibly brittle, screws strip out of the plastic. The Photo-receptor cartridge "slide in" frame was all plastic would fall apart from overheating as the forward edge was so close to the fuser, etc.

                      Originally posted by mascan42
                      Same here. I started out on the 5028/5034 series. Xerox somehow got the idea in their heads that these things were real workhorses, but they were just complete shit. If the doc feeder hinges crack the plastic feeder frame on a regular basis, perhaps the designers haven't thought things out properly. After the 17th mandatory retrofit, shouldn't it have clicked that there's a fundamental problem here?

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                      • monarke4
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                        #896
                        Re: Which WAS THE FIRST COPIER MADE IN THE WORLD AND BY WHICH COMPANY

                        I actually think the CopyFlo-11 was the first commercial machine in 1954. The 914 was introduced in 1959.

                        Copyflo-11-image.jpg

                        Originally posted by Debs1964
                        In 1938 Chester Carlson invented the photocopier, the first commercially available photocopier was the Xerox 914

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                        • progoffice
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                          Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                          The Kyocera C2630D and its printer sibling 8026 was a piece of crap too. We had to buy 3 of them back. We're finally selling Kyocera color again after all these years. The C2630D was a Frankenstein machine with a scanner bed held up by a frame with basically the 8026 printer underneath it. On top of terrible color, it was a 26 ppm machine that would run about 8 ppm when duplexing. It was a horrible machine at so many levels. Kyocera has certainly come a long way with their color machines. Their black and white stuff has always been good in my opinion.

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                          • monarke4
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                            Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                            Originally posted by Iowatech
                            On the other hand, this reminds me of one of the 3M microfilm machines. There was an infrared rotary microfiche duplicator that normally worked pretty well, but occasionally a fiche would get caught in the process and melt. Common problem description for that in the service call report: "fiche fry".
                            I remember TRW in El Segundo had the 3M machines for printing CAD drawings from Microfilm mounted on cards the size of IBM computer cards. The prints were Newspaper size. There was also a Xerox machine which printed from a rectangular sheet of microfilm. The Xerox system which basically looked like a modified 2400 seems to move from frame to frame very quickly as it cranked out the prints.

                            Seems these machines produced a lot of toner soot too. One of the operator's mentioned that you'd go into the bath room use a wet paper towel and the black would be seen on it from wiping your face.

                            I remember that if my sinuses were acting up, the toner dust was heavy enough in the air that when you walked through it was seemed difficult to breath.

                            This was the early 1980s.

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                            • monarke4
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                              #899
                              Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                              Nashua Photocopier - Television Advertisment

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                              The name is Nashua .... Nashua 1220. The Number One Copier for good reasons

                              Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                              Ha... Yeah every one would attempt parody Orson Welles deep low vocals <add bass tone> "No1 in plain paper copiers".

                              I remember wrecking a few sets of good cloths working on Nashua liquid machines. I was happy when the last one was removed from the field.

                              Long time ago..., how time fly's....

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                              • monarke4
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                                #900
                                Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                                Apparently one person can assemble it with the help of a crane.....

                                Assembling Of MFP E77650 By One Person!!!

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                                At 19:56 the tech is fanning and bending the ream of paper, why? This procedure went out in the late 1970s, right?

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                Can you expand on your discontent with the 77650? I have a new Toshiba A3 laser MFP quote to replace a very old Kyocera but the IT Administrator/ Decision maker is a HP fan and does not want to believe me that he is making a bad choice. In this case, a finisher is not required.
                                Last edited by monarke4; 06-27-2020, 08:45 AM.

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