Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[banginbishop]

[jmart77]

Not that bad.

They are hard to work on. But once you work on a few it gets easier, they are reliable if the customer understands the color part of the machine is for convenience and not production.

Are they that bad? I'm going to work on one for the first time on Wednesday. I hope this doesn't turn into a born again headache.

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[jmart77]

Top ten POS

10. Mita 3030 Enough said
9. Ricoh 6085 you could never keep it from jamming
8. Savin v35 this machine should have been left on the drawing board
7. Canon 2015 no matter what you did, this machine was never right
6. Ricoh 5050 the developer was placed above the duplexor and tds
5. Canon 4035/7550 Auto Feeder?
4. Ricoh 5733 First gen Auto control sys.
3. Savin Prism, Mans first attempt at every day color
2. Ricoh 5560/5520 Mod book three volumes.
1. Savin 840 it doesn't surprise me one of these machines committed suicide, it almost drove me to it.

Honorable mention: Minolta ep 4230
Panasonic Phoenix series
Sharp 9400/8600
Xerox 1980 to 1997
Kodak for getting out of the business.

[AMERCOPITECH]

Panasonic 2500,terrible,looks like it was built in someone's garage.

[hammer]

Which copier was the biggest load of crap?

Oh, the Ricoh FT 5733!!! Process control- the early years. You had to make sure you fully serviced it before you began the process control, otherwise you were gonna have trouble!
It was almost worthwhile servicing it, then servicing it again before you began the dreaded process control.

[Scorotron Wizard]

Any of the old liqid Nashua machines,
Sharp sf720
Monolta ep 4230 490
and the bizhub 420

[Incredible1]

ricoh 1224 and 1232!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammer]

Which copier was the worst?

We just traded out a Ricoh 1224 and our finance director wants us to clean it up, and sell it!!!!!!!! I reckon the machine will develop a horrendous fault! More horrendous than actually being a Ricoh 1224!!!

[Incredible1]

like me falling off the shipping dock? or "accidently" being ran over by a fork lift?!!

[hammer]

Which copier was the worst?

Something like that alright. It would have been a lot easier for technicians all over the world if the guy who designed that machine had taken the day off sick, rather than put pen to paper on that monster!!

[Incredible1]

I still have 46 of these @#$(@(#) wonderful boxes in the field !

[hammer]

Which copier was the worst?

Oh the pain! 46 of them. You'll have those donkey's limping around for a while.

[chexin51]

the worst ever

I have seen poorly engineered and obviously untested machines from several major manufacturers Xerox, Panasonic, Minolta, Muratec, Mita, Sharp but nothing compares to the Mita DC-1605, 1656, 1685 series.
It was Mita's first foray into organic drums technology. Everything was ok about the machine except one major flaw. It lacked a fan to adequately expell heat from the fuser. The machine would kill cleaning blades, charge corona wires would become contaminated with silicone oil vapors from the press roller, the copier would electrically glitch and reprogram all 99 programable parameters to random values. But this was only the beginning. The doc feeder was a POS, the sorter was worse - never ran after a month in the field. This POS was the only machine that where ever it was sold the client soon became to hate the machine, the technician and the company that sold them this POS. How about a service call every week on the same machine - how's that for reliability. Piece of S--t of all time

[hammer]

Which was the worst copier ever?

Oh My God....., it sounds like you needed counselling after that machine?

[chexin51]

reply to Hammer

No time for counselling but it never ceases to amaze me how the manufactures forget the lessons they learn 20 years ago and now they're going to repeat their mistakes. Now there going into modules so for example if you have a lamp driver PCB in the scanner and it dies because it is the cheapest available then you have to replace the entire scanner. Same story with the Doc Feeder, Drum modules and Fuser Units. Less individual parts but all the modules you care to purchase. Now tell me who really won World War 2. They only lost a battle but now their winning the war. Name one industry the Japanese don't dominate that they embark in within 25 years. Have a look at the back of any photocopier - the majority say "Made in China" by any Japanese manufacturer. Japanese companies using slave labor just like in WW2.