Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[techspec]

In the Panasonic range has to be the Workio 2500. I thought that was a piece of junk till I came across the Nashuatec DSc224/232 which totally is a bag of spanners!

[Shadow1]

I'm assuming that your DSc224 is the same as an AF1224 (product code B051) and I'm not quite up on my Brit, so I'm also assuming a "Bag of Spanners" is not a good thing - and I couldn't agree more.

[digicor]

ANYTHING THAT CLAM SHELLS GET MY VOTE

[Ollie1981]

After this past week I'm adding the Ricoh MP4000/MP5000 to this list:-

Twelve months ago I never thought you could make the NAD based 35/45 cpm engine any worse.

But they haven't half proved me wrong:-

The dev and toner has never been particularly great on this family, but this latest version is shocking,even with the Dev/Charge bias changes you are lucky if you get 50k before it overtones itself to death.

And why oh why did they put an oil web on the fuser? The 3035/3045 didn't have them and didn't particularly suffer for it. More to the point though why did they have to put such a fiddly one on when changing the web in the MP7500 is a five minute job? And why do one in three MP5000 web units have a seized alan screw so you can't get the damn thing apart without taking a hacksaw to it?

Why did they combine the PCU and Dev unit into a single unit, when all this achieves is making the tech spend another five minutes farting around over what he used to spend on a 3045.

I wish I could load every single one of these sh*tboxes into a rocket and fire it into the sun.

[garf004]

1550 Helll

I am the winner of this contest !!!!!
The right answer is TOSHIBA 1550

Yes the lower fame used to bend & the mod was strip off everything & replace it & it still jammed after,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,............???

[Jimbo1]

It was always a little freaky that it clamshelled from the front!

[Travis06]

It was always a little freaky that it clamshelled from the front!

The first time I saw one, it hit me right in the jaw, when the clamshell opened like the hood of a car. (thought it was like a 1350)

[montana]

there is an old minolta models -ep 510 -ep 710 & mita dc1405-mita dc 1855 all analogue &the worst models i ever met.

[Shadow1]

I always hated the Lanier 6450 and 6550 - these were Toshiba machines, although I have no idea what model. The drum and developer came out in a metal tray and weighed about a zillion pounds. A good drum looked like it had been sandblasted, and when they got smooth and shiny like a "good" metallic drum was supposed to look they were bad. (not to mention the selenium, arsenic, and tellurium they were made from is very toxic) Brand new developer and a full pm and the machine would dust. Charge wire liked to arc to the drum.

In their defense I will say that teflon was not a required coating on the heat roller - Saw one with over 1M that was completely down to polished aluminum and making perfect copies. They would also run for about a month regardless of how many copies you put on them be it 100 or 100k.

[Jimbo1]

I worked on those too. It was like pulling the engine out of a Volkswagen.

I also had a fleet of Lanier 6360 machines. Made the 6550 look simple.

[Pantylotion]

Brother 9420

i loathe this printer.

[fireater]

sorry guys but Toshiba EStudio 35-4511 is king of crap

You guys make me laugh ... nothing is crappier to work on than a 3511 toshiba. Any machine that takes 6 plus hours to do a full pm on it has to be king

although they DO have good copy (for office colour)

[Shadow1]

You guys make me laugh ... nothing is crappier to work on than a 3511 toshiba. Any machine that takes 6 plus hours to do a full pm on it has to be king

Is that anything like a FC-22 (which I knew as a Lanier 5722 and then the LC031) All those cheezy plastic pieces inside the drum unit that kept breaking and the "automatic developer dump" that never worked. Wouldn't have been so bad if they designed the drum and dev units to be disposable, but to actually have to rebuild the EPU was as about as fun as smashing my testicles in a clamshell machine (no I didn't, but I did catch my pants leg when a bad shock collapsed - luckily it was running down the other leg...)

[Lagonda]

For my money it was the IBM 2 , rebadged out here as the Nashua 8120, that was the biggest boat anchor I came across. For a start it was built like a Mack truck and you needed a toolbox full of truck spanners to work on them.
The electronics were so retro-tec I'm surprised it didn't have vacuum tube valves in there.
The fuser was a honey of a design, it slide out on a single rail and split open for servicing with out having to remove it from the copier, but the rest!!!
The dev unit weighed half a ton and wasn't on rails and had to be humped and manhandled clear of the frame and usually squashed your fingers. When you refitted the paper feeds units they had to be shimmed back/front, left/right and up/down to get them into the right place. The main motor was a 3 phase job that needed two guys to pick it up.
The cleaning station was built into the frame and couldn't be removed. To clean it out you had to pull the front end off and reach in up to your armpit with a scotchbrite pad to get all the lumpy toner out. About as much fun as putting your arm up a camels ar$ehole!!!
No wonder IBM almost went broke!!!

[jcottingham]

Let's go back in time some

I may be dating myself a bit but do any of you all remeber working on wet toner systems? I had 2 particularly smelly jewels that I have almost had the pleasure of erasing from my head. One was a Pitney-Bowes Desktop? copier amd the other was a Micrographix microfilm Reader/printer. Any repair usually included draining the toner and running and scrubbing the toner system with with toner solvent that was messy an would eat through latex gloves. And nylon strips on the guides would eventualy come off and you had to tear the chassis down to replace them. Heaven help you if a guide warped.