Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[Shadow1]

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Normally I work on Ricoh, and there's certainly no shortage of turds in their graveyard (and a few they're still trying to sell) but I've had to work on several other brands here recently, and I have to say the biggest piece of crap ever...

...IS ANYTHING YOU CAN POUR KATUN TONER INTO!!!

End of Rant.

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Are there any Dennison Copier Techs still alive out there except me? 1968-1980.

I was there for most of the show!

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Most of you won't remember this one. It's a Dinasour Called the RBC IV.
Royal Bond Copier put this BEAST out in the late 70's. Unreal issues. This thing had a huge wrap around Master Sheet. with an Oven for a fuser. For that baked in freshness. Many of OMG fire jams. Electrical problems out the Wazzu. This was a Floor Model, you could almost climb inside.

I even remember The RBC I, RBC II, and RBC III, as well as the liquid Royfax 7, 12, 15, 1400, 1500, 1700, and 1800. Darn, I'm getting old!!!!!!

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Hehe,

Yeah, the Dennison BC-28 and BC-14 with a 6 lb. drum,

I still have 2 drum containers.

I remember the Dennison BC-28 mounted a microswitch, MS6 I believe, directly under the developer unit. This switch controlled all timing issues with the machine and didn't work after it was dusted with toner. We carried replacement guides with new switches already attached and adjusted as a way of speeding up service time. Replace the guide assemble and then look to see if there were any other problems. The BC 14 was so named, I believe, because it took all of 14 minutes to warm up, which it needed to do EVERY time you opened the front door.

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I know this was a long time ago but does anyone remember the Remington 530? (I think that was the number). This was the machine that had a piece of monofilament fishing line (really) with one end attached to the lever of a microswitch that stretched down the side of and across the top area of the fuser unit and the other end connected to a spring to afford constant tension. This was used as a thermal protector. If, I'm sorry, WHEN the machine caught fire, the line would melt in two and release the microswitch, which in turn would open the main relay, shutting down the entire machine. After the fire went out, there was a major build up of ashes, tar, soot and whatever else is contained in the paper and toner to be cleaned, chiseled, or otherwise removed before replacing the monofilament line to start the process over again. I also have fond memories of the Apeco Electrocopy 171.

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All these machines that everybody came out with to do color, business color its called, or a b/w machine with color capabilties, like the iRC6800 series by cannon just mentioned, or the imfamous TE 3511/4511 vwith the rotating color system, sharps BC 260/320, not too bad, but not greatest, but like all of them, sales pushes it where it should never go.
Years ago sharp had the right idea, with the old SF-2022/2027, whats that you say, color from a analoge b/w, yes, if you wanted color, you pulled the black dv unit out and slipped in the color unit, either red, green or brown I belive was the ones I recall for it, I did at one time have a cust with a red dv unit for that machine.
Life of dv was I want to recall half of the black dv, or about 40K or so.
I got to thinking on this, if we can ever fix sales and stupid operators of the machines, our jobs at service techs may not be too bad.

I think the exchangable color unit started with, as best I remember, the Canon PC10, PC20, PC25 series.

[Llama God]

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No...fucking...way...

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[Darren King]

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Di551/7155, Di5510/7255, BH600. Overtoning, dev puking Konica pieces of crap.

[Iceman™]

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im adding the ricoh mpc6000 and 6001 POS. Bitch to work on, labour intensive and as reliable as a pinocho telling the truth. Ive had 2 this week and they are S**T boxes. The smaller mpc range is good but this bag of crap aint worth a dump in a field. Designed to piss you off by taking most of your working day, just by cleaning it up and after putting it back together its still give s**t copies. The dev set up is w**k, the charge rollers are w**k need i go on.

If you vacuum all the filters below the controller you MAY relieve yourself from a couple of "toner scatter"-visits, but you'll still have to do all the PMs just to keep the image quality "acceptable".
No worries, each unit will only keep you occupied for a couple of workdays every month .

[HappyHarry]

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Yep, IRC6800 every time - how the hell did Canon get it so wrong?

Mind you, I'm no fan of any Ricoh from what I hear.

[mac777]

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Toshiba e studio 3511_4511, toner everywhere, rubbish copy quality, getting the drum out was a pain i the arse,fuser was very poor,very slow.Hated them.

[its_just_a_copier]

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I agree. Also the IR6800C evil twin the Imagepress C1. What a steaming pile.

Evil Twin.... lol

Yes if you can keep an IPC1 going you are OK in my book... I'd rather work on the IPC7000 anyday!

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how about the MITA DC-1355

[skinnyb]

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I thought people liked the quality of the C1?

When they are working right and on the money no other machine will touch their quality, but if you Ignore any pm schedule or do anything at all out of line, they will bite you like a rabid dog. Also to pm the drum/developer/ transfer belt is as much fun as the irc 6800 they are based on. And the fuser with the floating pressure roller belt that always likes to walk off track and rip to shreds. Lots of fun, glad the ones I had are long since gone.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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I thought people liked the quality of the C1?

I agree. Also the IR6800C evil twin the Imagepress C1. What a steaming pile.