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  • dibyendu2008
    Technician
    • Dec 2011
    • 27

    #1

    BH227 Drum Unit melt

    Dear friends I had a problem on BH 227 machine. In this machine Drum unit melt by over heating. Please see the attached images for the problem. Please suggest further what to do.
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  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    RUN
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • copyman
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      • Sep 2005
      • 4629

      #3
      Wow! not sure how it could get that hot and not throw a fuser code. I know that model is Konica Minolta's "ugly stepchild" and wasn't their best design. Not many sold by the dealers I know. With that being said something is missing, there has to be more to this story????

      If it was me I would light fuse and get away!

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      • dibyendu2008
        Technician
        • Dec 2011
        • 27

        #4
        No error Is showing for over heating. Please suggest

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
          • 7980

          #5
          What about your fuser?
          Anything else near drum melted?
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          • Synthohol
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            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            if it melted like that without any codes then that machine is an insurance and safety risk, im sorry but there is no way i would ever leave that machine unattended for a second if that melting damage happened during its use.
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • dibyendu2008
              Technician
              • Dec 2011
              • 27

              #7
              Originally posted by tsbservice
              What about your fuser?
              Anything else near drum melted?
              No Sir. Only Drum Unit melt. We use original Drum Unit.

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              • dibyendu2008
                Technician
                • Dec 2011
                • 27

                #8
                Originally posted by Synthohol
                if it melted like that without any codes then that machine is an insurance and safety risk, im sorry but there is no way i would ever leave that machine unattended for a second if that melting damage happened during its use.
                Sir this is a new machine. I had Replaced first Drum unit for melting that time machine total counter was 5525. Again after 1500 copies Drum unit melting again without showing any error code. Iam surprised. And for your kind information we use original Drum Unit. Last time I decreased the Fusing temparature at -10 in service mode but it will not work. Please share any check point suggestion.

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                • Synthohol
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                  #9
                  if its new then place a warranty claim, seriously even on a copiers worst day it shouldnt melt inside from its own heat.
                  if its new then you really shouldnt even try to fix it you may void the warranty.
                  the plastic melts at around 300F+ and paper catches fire at 415F. i cant imagine how much heat that fuser must be giving off to affect something BELOW it.
                  good luck, this is bad situation.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • tsbservice
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                    • May 2007
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                    #10
                    Something fishy may happen here I never seen anything like that. Is this client problematic. Maybe someone helped with that drum damage and want to blame machine and service 😞
                    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                    • dibyendu2008
                      Technician
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tsbservice
                      Something fishy may happen here I never seen anything like that. Is this client problematic. Maybe someone helped with that drum damage and want to blame machine and service 😞
                      No sir customer is very helpful and friendly

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                      • dibyendu2008
                        Technician
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 27

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Synthohol
                        if its new then place a warranty claim, seriously even on a copiers worst day it shouldnt melt inside from its own heat.
                        if its new then you really shouldnt even try to fix it you may void the warranty.
                        the plastic melts at around 300F+ and paper catches fire at 415F. i cant imagine how much heat that fuser must be giving off to affect something BELOW it.
                        good luck, this is bad situation.
                        Customer had another BH 227 machine in same office. I have already interchange the Fusing Unit but no luck. I think power supply or MFP Board faulty.

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                        • copyman
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                          • Sep 2005
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                          #13
                          What about the enviroment the copier is in, is it extremely hot? Could the fuser exhaust / cooling fan be blocked, if fan not working would throw code. Did you try changing any of the power settings, sleep mode, etc? We usually turn off sleep on all Kon/Min models but in this case I would turn sleep on and if customer is low volume have go into low power / sleep ASAP like 1 or 2 minutes.

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                          • copier tech
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                            • Jan 2014
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                            #14
                            Maybe you have a failed fuser fan or blocked air filter.

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                            • Ziggy
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                              #15
                              Not sure if this machine has any filters. If it does they may be clogged not letting heat to vent properly

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