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  • tsbservice
    Field tech

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • May 2007
    • 7976

    #16
    Originally posted by Markks
    Not sure if this machine has any filters. If it does they may be clogged not letting heat to vent properly
    Actually it has 3
    Two ozone filters and 1 toner filter.
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    • copyman
      Owner / Technician

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      2,500+ Posts
      • Sep 2005
      • 4624

      #17
      I've had machines with 200k+ clicks and filters never changed or vac'd and never melted a fuser like that. Like I said in my OP there is more to this story........

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      • AlaskaCopyTech
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jan 2024
        • 77

        #18
        Some questions I would like to know the answers too:
        1. What exactly is the fuser temp is service mode set to for every paper type?
        2. If you panic stop is it actually that temperature.
        3. Is the exterior of the duplex section hot? I ask because I think that is where the fan is?
        4. What is the result of doing a sensor check/motor check on the fuser and fan?
        5. Further more, when you boot on the machine and do a fuser rotation how hot does the machine get?
        6. Are you 100% sure this is an OEM drum?

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        • Albonline
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Sep 2008
          • 1144

          #19
          to melt the drum like that the fuser cooling fans would have to be going in reverse.

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          • copyman
            Owner / Technician

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            • Sep 2005
            • 4624

            #20
            Originally posted by AlaskaCopyTech
            Some questions I would like to know the answers too:
            1. What exactly is the fuser temp is service mode set to for every paper type?
            2. If you panic stop is it actually that temperature.
            3. Is the exterior of the duplex section hot? I ask because I think that is where the fan is?
            4. What is the result of doing a sensor check/motor check on the fuser and fan?
            5. Further more, when you boot on the machine and do a fuser rotation how hot does the machine get?
            6. Are you 100% sure this is an OEM drum?
            If the fan stops working machine will throw a code. Monitoring fan rotation and throwing code if fan stops or slows down has been a thing with Kon/Min for as long as I can remember. Small ones on pwr supplies to larger exhaust / cooling fans all will throw codes when not working properly.

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            • AlaskaCopyTech
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Jan 2024
              • 77

              #21
              copyman I agree with you but I just want to make sure there isn't more to the story here.

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              • wjurls
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                • Feb 2017
                • 494

                #22
                Originally posted by tsbservice
                Something fishy may happen here I never seen anything like that. Is this client problematic. Maybe someone helped with that drum damage and want to blame machine and service 😞
                This!! Like Synth said. The drum sits below the fuser. Right above the fuser are some delicate plastic fingers. Why aren't they melted to oblivion?

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                • copier tech
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                  • Jan 2014
                  • 8132

                  #23
                  Originally posted by wjurls

                  This!! Like Synth said. The drum sits below the fuser. Right above the fuser are some delicate plastic fingers. Why aren't they melted to oblivion?
                  Those claws are made from higher temperature resistant material. The plastic covers are not.

                  We have these models installed in construction port-a-cabins where the temperature in summer can reach 40c however we've never had any drums melt like yours.


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                  • dibyendu2008
                    Technician
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 27

                    #24
                    I have done some settings in service mode now machine is working fine.
                    First enable cooling fan motor in enhanced service mode by enabling Dip Switch No 4
                    Second in service mode in Machine tab - Cooling fan stop delay set to maximum.
                    It works. Thanks for all your support

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                    • Gift
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2458

                      #25
                      How the fuck can that happen? Heat from fuser usually raise upwars and would cause other damage before the drum unit will look like this.

                      Edit: Once I had a case with a cooling fan that has been installed in the wrong direction causing the MFP to throw an error code due to fuser overheating. I think it was a brother MFP. Wouldn't hurt to check the fans though in case this will re-appear.

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                      • Afanasy
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2023
                        • 21

                        #26
                        Another guess: perhaps someone installed the fan backwards and the air flow is in the opposite direction.

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                        • tech51
                          Senior Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 846

                          #27
                          This should be reported to KM as a serious safety risk. Get them involved and the machine replaced asap.

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                          • dibyendu2008
                            Technician
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 27

                            #28
                            Dear friends all fans are in correct position and this is new machine. Customer site is warehouse and no Airconditioner. I had done some below mentioned settings and problem got resolved. Thanks everyone for your kind support


                            I have done some settings in service mode now machine is working fine.
                            First enable cooling fan motor in enhanced service mode by enabling Dip Switch No 4
                            Second in service mode in Machine tab - Cooling fan stop delay set to maximum.
                            It works. Thanks for all your support​

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                            • nullskull
                              Learning

                              250+ Posts
                              • Aug 2023
                              • 396

                              #29
                              Originally posted by dibyendu2008
                              Dear friends all fans are in correct position and this is new machine. Customer site is warehouse and no Airconditioner. I had done some below mentioned settings and problem got resolved. Thanks everyone for your kind support


                              I have done some settings in service mode now machine is working fine.
                              First enable cooling fan motor in enhanced service mode by enabling Dip Switch No 4
                              Second in service mode in Machine tab - Cooling fan stop delay set to maximum.
                              It works. Thanks for all your support​
                              why the cooling fan motor wouldn't be on in the first place is strange for me but glad it's working for you now

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                              • copyman
                                Owner / Technician

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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 4624

                                #30
                                Like I wrote in my OP something doesn't add up and has to be more to this story......

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