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  • Benioffi
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    • Jun 2025
    • 8

    #1

    [Misc] Negative ghosting

    Hello. I'm new to the forum and need some help. I have a client with a Konica Minolta Bizhub C550i showing an issue I haven’t been able to resolve.

    Some time ago, I replaced the black drum unit. Shortly after, the client reported dark areas appearing on the prints. The problem is that starting from the second page, a band from the previous print is repeated in negative (see attached images).

    I tried replacing the drum again, but the result was the same. I’m considering whether it could be an issue with the erase lamp, but I don’t want to start replacing parts without being reasonably sure of the root cause.

    If anyone has experienced something similar, I would really appreciate your help.
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  • Larhal
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    #2
    Did you use a original Konica drum? Was this happening before you first serviced the machine?
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    • tsbservice
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      • May 2007
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      #3
      Originally posted by Larhal
      Did you use a original Konica drum? Was this happening before you first serviced the machine?
      +1
      It looks like drum is not properly discharged.
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      • copyman
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        #4
        drum or fuser

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        • Larhal
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          #5
          Originally posted by tsbservice
          +1
          It looks like drum is not properly discharged.
          I confirm that but still is it an compatible drum or Konica?
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          • Benioffi
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            • Jun 2025
            • 8

            #6
            Originally posted by Larhal
            Did you use a original Konica drum? Was this happening before you first serviced the machine?
            I often use Katun drums and usually have no issues, but in this printer I installed an original Konica DR618K. I replaced it because the counter had reached zero. The machine wasn’t having this specific issue before—there were marks due to the worn-out cleaning blade. However, I’ve now installed a third new drum and I'm still getting the same problem.

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            • Benioffi
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              • Jun 2025
              • 8

              #7
              Originally posted by tsbservice
              +1
              It looks like drum is not properly discharged.
              I think I’m going to disassemble and clean the drum contact areas inside the printer, and also check the erase lamp and its connection.

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              • Benioffi
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                • Jun 2025
                • 8

                #8
                Originally posted by copyman
                drum or fuser
                The ghosted image that repeats is intermittent and appears in negative, which is why I ruled out the fuser as the cause. I replaced the drum with another new one, but the result is exactly the same.

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                • SAR
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                  • Jul 2009
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                  #9
                  I had one doing that exact same banding, but it was only on the back side of the page, if it was a single sided copy and was on page 2 of a double sided copy.
                  It ended up being a bad transfer roller that caused it.
                  This may not apply to your circumstances, but if it does, it only takes a few seconds to pop a transfer roller in.

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                  • Benioffi
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                    • Jun 2025
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SAR
                    I had one doing that exact same banding, but it was only on the back side of the page, if it was a single sided copy and was on page 2 of a double sided copy.
                    It ended up being a bad transfer roller that caused it.
                    This may not apply to your circumstances, but if it does, it only takes a few seconds to pop a transfer roller in.
                    Yes, one of the solutions I considered was replacing the secondary transfer roller. But the problem is not on the second side of the sheet. Honestly, it's easy to replace, so I might try it to rule out that possibility.

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                    • tsbservice
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                      • May 2007
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Benioffi

                      I often use Katun drums and usually have no issues, but in this printer I installed an original Konica DR618K. I replaced it because the counter had reached zero. The machine wasn’t having this specific issue before—there were marks due to the worn-out cleaning blade. However, I’ve now installed a third new drum and I'm still getting the same problem.
                      Then check your erase leds.
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                      • Black Cloud
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                        #12
                        It could also be developer bias, While you are cleaning drum contacts, go in there and clean out the developer contacts also. A bit of fine sandpaper should do the trick.
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                        • Benioffi
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                          • Jun 2025
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Hi everyone. I disassembled the transfer belt, drum units, developer units, fuser, and even the secondary transfer roller.
                          I cleaned the springs and contacts that connect the drum and developer units using isopropyl alcohol, cleaned the K erase lamp, and visually inspected everything. I then reassembled all the components, entered service mode, and executed a drum refresh for K.
                          And it started working normally again. I don’t know which of all the actions I performed actually fixed the issue, but if it’s working, I’m happy.
                          Thank you all for your help. Best regards.

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                          • Larhal
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                            #14
                            Was anything you cleaned excessively dirty? Congratulation on your success.
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