Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tray?

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  • tonerjockey
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    • Apr 2014
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    Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tray?

    Sorry not enough room on the Title bar.
    first let me thank blackcat4866 and supertechs for the FS-534 alignment plate wearing. post

    my question, i have a older client that just wants this to stop jamming, and doesn't need the finisher.
    i noticed that the stock myler was missing, and i smoothed the burs on the rear arm, but its not 100% with no crumpling and rolling the exit paper.

    at first i was able to find a setting in the admin mode to select the top tray, but i think some things wanted to go to the lower finisher tray, and then the issue.

    then i wanted to see if i could select both copies and prints to go to the lower, and i cant find the admin setting again now.


    i did remove the finisher, and thinking this would let all the paper be delivered in the inner tray, under the copy glass section, where you reach between the glass and toner door. but when i unplugged the two FS-534 cables, then the copies end up in the inner connect horizontal transport stopped. apparently by disconnecting the finisher, the paper still wants to go in that transport with no dive.

    i see that there is some reference to an inner tray, OT-503 A092WW1 where the transport is not there.
    i also see a exit tray assembly that appears to hang off the left side where the finisher goes.

    those are in the range of $100 each, as well as i think the same for each of the replacement arms with the new mod.

    meanwhile i have made the two metal 15mm x 95mm plates, and debating which way to go.

    the man seems to be struggling with costs, and hoping for a simple, cheap way to just eliminate the jogging of the sets on the finisher.

    or, can that shift mechanism be unplugged, and run with it that way?

    any suggestions for this long winded explanation would be appreciated.

    have a great day, Jim.
  • Brad6784
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    Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

    Originally posted by tonerjockey
    Sorry not enough room on the Title bar.
    first let me thank blackcat4866 and supertechs for the FS-534 alignment plate wearing. post

    my question, i have a older client that just wants this to stop jamming, and doesn't need the finisher.
    i noticed that the stock myler was missing, and i smoothed the burs on the rear arm, but its not 100% with no crumpling and rolling the exit paper.

    at first i was able to find a setting in the admin mode to select the top tray, but i think some things wanted to go to the lower finisher tray, and then the issue.

    then i wanted to see if i could select both copies and prints to go to the lower, and i cant find the admin setting again now.


    i did remove the finisher, and thinking this would let all the paper be delivered in the inner tray, under the copy glass section, where you reach between the glass and toner door. but when i unplugged the two FS-534 cables, then the copies end up in the inner connect horizontal transport stopped. apparently by disconnecting the finisher, the paper still wants to go in that transport with no dive.

    i see that there is some reference to an inner tray, OT-503 A092WW1 where the transport is not there.
    i also see a exit tray assembly that appears to hang off the left side where the finisher goes.

    those are in the range of $100 each, as well as i think the same for each of the replacement arms with the new mod.

    meanwhile i have made the two metal 15mm x 95mm plates, and debating which way to go.

    the man seems to be struggling with costs, and hoping for a simple, cheap way to just eliminate the jogging of the sets on the finisher.

    or, can that shift mechanism be unplugged, and run with it that way?

    any suggestions for this long winded explanation would be appreciated.

    have a great day, Jim.
    Just remove the bridge unit as well as the finisher, the copies will then just drop on to the metal toner cover plate, obviously fitting an exit tray would be advisable but this is a no cost fix. I hope this helps!


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    • SAR
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      • Jul 2009
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      #3
      Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

      To deliver copies to the inner tray, go to Administrator mode, touch System, Output, Output tray settings, Tray3.

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      • Synthohol
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        • Mar 2016
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        Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

        Originally posted by SAR
        To deliver copies to the inner tray, go to Administrator mode, touch System, Output, Output tray settings, Tray3.
        i dont think that will display since the finisher is no longer plugged in.
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • tsbservice
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          Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

          Maybe remove finisher from installed options. From service mode stop then 3 and follow up.
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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

            I'd go with the metal plates, myself, but you can remove the bridge, and the paper will just drop onto the engine cover.
            Either way works. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • tonerjockey
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              Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

              Hi guys, oh cool. that's great info.
              i forgot to mention, when i removed the finisher and then it stopped in the bridge unit, i reattached the finisher.
              so, if its connected, if i follow the suggestion

              "To deliver copies to the inner tray, go to Administrator mode, touch System, Output, Output tray settings, Tray3."

              would that then deliver all copy/ print jobs to the inner tray above the bridge?? that might be more appropriate so the papers don't inevitably curl up and get mixed up by not having a real tray?
              i used to just get some cardboard to make a tray in a bind.

              i was also going to ask if anyone did the plates and if its not to tough. is it possible to glue them in without removing the guides? or is that like making 3 rights instead of one left? there's very little space to get in there. oh, and with the flashlight in your teeth as well...

              thank you so much.

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              • blackcat4866
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                Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                If your fingers are the width of pencils and a foot long ... maybe. It takes me 62 minutes to swap the regulating plates, but I may have done it once or twice. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • tonerjockey
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                  Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                  ok, so that's with the replacements in hand and just swapping them out right?
                  do you do it like the supertechs video? remove side covers, and a long screwdriver from the inside to get to the one screw, then finesse the guides out and in.

                  if i go that route, is it advisable doing both guides?

                  i am thinking due to their needs and finance concerns, if i can just get everything to land on the top of the bridge unit that would likely be fine. all the linkage and guides appear to be in place to either send the paper thru or on top of the bridge.

                  I really appreciate everyone's help and advice. to cool.

                  Jim

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                  • femaster
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                    • May 2011
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                    Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                    Originally posted by tonerjockey
                    i am thinking due to their needs and finance concerns, if i can just get everything to land on the top of the bridge unit that would likely be fine. all the linkage and guides appear to be in place to either send the paper thru or on top of the bridge.

                    I really appreciate everyone's help and advice. to cool.

                    Jim
                    Setting the default output to tray 3 for all job types will bypass the tray you are having the issues with provided the customer doesn't choose any type of special finishing option, like staple, offset sort, etc. This also applies to any similar setting(s) that my be set as the default in copy mode. If something like that is selected, then the job will automatically come out onto the lower finisher tray, ignoring the fact that all jobs are programmed to come out onto tray 3.
                    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
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                    • Ziggy
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                      Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                      you could remove the bridge unit , then remove the top hinged portion of bridge unit . Then you could reattach bridge unit without finisher and paper would exit out on top of it. It wouldnt be pretty or stack the papers neatly but it would work.

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                      • blackcat4866
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                        Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                        Originally posted by tonerjockey
                        ok, so that's with the replacements in hand and just swapping them out right?...
                        Correct. Old regulator plates can be recovered with metal.

                        Originally posted by tonerjockey
                        ... do you do it like the supertechs video? remove side covers, and a long screwdriver from the inside to get to the one screw, then finesse the guides out and in...
                        There's no way to get them out without removing the stacker tray AFAIK. You'll only end up with a lot of broken plastic.

                        Originally posted by tonerjockey
                        if i go that route, is it advisable doing both guides? ...
                        They will both be equally worn .. of course.

                        Originally posted by tonerjockey
                        ... i am thinking due to their needs and finance concerns, if i can just get everything to land on the top of the bridge unit that would likely be fine. all the linkage and guides appear to be in place to either send the paper thru or on top of the bridge.

                        I really appreciate everyone's help and advice. to cool.

                        Jim
                        Your choice. Once re-covered it's a lifetime repair.
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • tonerjockey
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                          Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                          thanks femaster.
                          that explains why i had changed ? copy or print handling and some went to the top finisher tray, yet others would still go below.
                          i am planning to get there and see what i can mess up as soon as they are ready to see me.

                          i will post the outcome as soon as i have.

                          thank you so much for the help, and have a very nice day to everyone.

                          PS, femaster, do you remember the model of the copier in that old brochure? i am wondering if i have seen it way back.

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                          • tonerjockey
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                            Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                            Originally posted by Markks
                            you could remove the bridge unit , then remove the top hinged portion of bridge unit . Then you could reattach bridge unit without finisher and paper would exit out on top of it. It wouldnt be pretty or stack the papers neatly but it would work.
                            cool thought. it'll add possibilities when i get there. thanks a bunch.

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                            • tonerjockey
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                              Re: Konica BH C754e with FS-534 finisher can i set all copyto deliver to the inner tr

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              Correct. Old regulator plates can be recovered with metal.



                              There's no way to get them out without removing the stacker tray AFAIK. You'll only end up with a lot of broken plastic.



                              They will both be equally worn .. of course.



                              Your choice. Once re-covered it's a lifetime repair.
                              i didn't realize i had created another page and didn't see this till now.
                              i am glad you pointed this fact that the AFAIK needs to be removed. i thought this was the case, but saw the supertecks you tube video and thought, oh, there is a faster way. things aren't always what they seem.

                              and being in the shop as they were, and not at the teensy customers office on carpet and no workspace in the walkway does make a difference.

                              i have found this with many finishers as well. you have to get it all apart to replace things. like a heater core on a car. but the levers right there!

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