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  • Ziggy
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    • Feb 2018
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    #1

    More i-series problems

    Noticed that on A4 printers and MFP's that the vent hole in the cover for the CPU does not line up with the actual vent holes for CPU. Which could cause CPU overheating and eventually CPU failure. Picture attached of a 4750i , I checked several other A4 machines and all were same way.
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  • elmaligno
    Expert technician KM

    250+ Posts
    • Oct 2009
    • 302

    #2
    Re: More i-series problems

    Originally posted by Markks
    Noticed that on A4 printers and MFP's that the vent hole in the cover for the CPU does not line up with the actual vent holes for CPU. Which could cause CPU overheating and eventually CPU failure. Picture attached of a 4750i , I checked several other A4 machines and all were same way.
    . C5372 (CPU temperature failure) may occur during PC printing or low power/sleep mode.
     As a countermeasure, the FAN will not turn off even in low power mode or sleep mode after applying this firmware (GG1-RB).
    For the customer who prefers to stop CPU FAN, it is required to set the following software SW to disable the countermeasure.
      A function to turn ON/OFF the CPU FAN during low power and sleep mode.
    Field technician since 1994

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    • Ziggy
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      #3
      Re: More i-series problems

      Originally posted by elmaligno
      . C5372 (CPU temperature failure) may occur during PC printing or low power/sleep mode.
       As a countermeasure, the FAN will not turn off even in low power mode or sleep mode after applying this firmware (GG1-RB).
      For the customer who prefers to stop CPU FAN, it is required to set the following software SW to disable the countermeasure.
        A function to turn ON/OFF the CPU FAN during low power and sleep mode.

      Yeah but if the vent holes were in the correct spot it would alleviate this problem.

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      • Woxner
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Jul 2011
        • 838

        #4
        Re: More i-series problems

        You would be nuts to put RB on right now. it just came out on the 18th. Give it a month for bugs to be worked out

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
          • 7971

          #5
          Re: More i-series problems

          Originally posted by Markks
          Noticed that on A4 printers and MFP's that the vent hole in the cover for the CPU does not line up with the actual vent holes for CPU. Which could cause CPU overheating and eventually CPU failure. Picture attached of a 4750i , I checked several other A4 machines and all were same way.
          This is frightening even for POS they are. QA in KM production is at its lowest end ever. Yet they continue to dig down.
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          • Gift
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2011
            • 2458

            #6
            Re: More i-series problems

            lol - never noticed, we once had a c300i with overheating issues - we swapped the thermal conductive pad from the cooler with a qood quality grease and that helped, too.

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            • copier tech
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              • Jan 2014
              • 8132

              #7
              Re: More i-series problems

              Originally posted by Markks
              Noticed that on A4 printers and MFP's that the vent hole in the cover for the CPU does not line up with the actual vent holes for CPU. Which could cause CPU overheating and eventually CPU failure. Picture attached of a 4750i , I checked several other A4 machines and all were same way.
              Wow that really does look like a design flaw!
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              • KMFLT3CH
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • May 2017
                • 226

                #8
                Re: More i-series problems

                Just released today...


                C5372 (CPU temperature failure) may occur during PC printing or low power/sleep mode.

                CAUSE: G00-K8 firmware contained a change designed to reduce the noise output of the printer.
                This was accomplished by turning off the CPU cooling fan during low power and sleep mode.
                A side effect of disabling the CPU cooling fan is the generation of C5372 errors.

                SOLUTION: It is NOT recommended that holes be drilled into the back panels of the printer.
                Many notice that the rear exhaust grill is not aligned with the fan vent in the RF shield, this is intentional and does not affect the CPU cooling fan's performance.
                (lol)
                The offset of the exhaust grill reduces the noise level of the CPU fan.


                To resolve the intermittent C5372 errors, apply the countermeasure firmware below.
                As a countermeasure, the FAN will not turn off even in low power mode or sleep mode after applying this firmware (GG1-RB)

                Occurrence models / Countermeasure firmware
                bizhub C4050i/C3350i, C4051i/C3351i .... GG1-RB
                bizhub C4000i/C3300i, C4001i/C3301i .... GG1-RB
                bizhub C3320i, C3321i .... GG1-RB
                bizhub 4750i/4050i, 4751i/4051i .... GG1-RB
                bizhub 4700i, 4701i .... GG1-RB

                *Periodic FW scheduled to be released in May will also include the same countermeasures as GG1-RB*

                For the customer who prefers to stop CPU FAN, it is required to set the following software SW to disable the countermeasure:

                A function to turn ON/OFF the CPU FAN during low power and sleep mode
                Software SW No. 189 (bit7)
                Hex: 00 (Enable [default]) FAN is turned ON in low power/sleep mode
                Hex: 80 (Disable) FAN is turned OFF in low power/sleep mode

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                • kingarthur
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1325

                  #9
                  Re: More i-series problems

                  Originally posted by Woxner
                  You would be nuts to put RB on right now. it just came out on the 18th. Give it a month for bugs to be worked out

                  I had no choice, had a brand new device, constantly sending me C5372 errors via CSRC - luckily the customer was unaware, however, since updating the FW over a week ago, I've had no notifications
                  Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                  • Gift
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2458

                    #10
                    Re: More i-series problems

                    Originally posted by KMFLT3CH
                    Just released today...


                    C5372 (CPU temperature failure) may occur during PC printing or low power/sleep mode.

                    CAUSE: G00-K8 firmware contained a change designed to reduce the noise output of the printer.
                    This was accomplished by turning off the CPU cooling fan during low power and sleep mode.
                    A side effect of disabling the CPU cooling fan is the generation of C5372 errors.

                    SOLUTION: It is NOT recommended that holes be drilled into the back panels of the printer.
                    Many notice that the rear exhaust grill is not aligned with the fan vent in the RF shield, this is intentional and does not affect the CPU cooling fan's performance.
                    (lol)
                    The offset of the exhaust grill reduces the noise level of the CPU fan.


                    To resolve the intermittent C5372 errors, apply the countermeasure firmware below.
                    As a countermeasure, the FAN will not turn off even in low power mode or sleep mode after applying this firmware (GG1-RB)

                    Occurrence models / Countermeasure firmware
                    bizhub C4050i/C3350i, C4051i/C3351i .... GG1-RB
                    bizhub C4000i/C3300i, C4001i/C3301i .... GG1-RB
                    bizhub C3320i, C3321i .... GG1-RB
                    bizhub 4750i/4050i, 4751i/4051i .... GG1-RB
                    bizhub 4700i, 4701i .... GG1-RB

                    *Periodic FW scheduled to be released in May will also include the same countermeasures as GG1-RB*

                    For the customer who prefers to stop CPU FAN, it is required to set the following software SW to disable the countermeasure:

                    A function to turn ON/OFF the CPU FAN during low power and sleep mode
                    Software SW No. 189 (bit7)
                    Hex: 00 (Enable [default]) FAN is turned ON in low power/sleep mode
                    Hex: 80 (Disable) FAN is turned OFF in low power/sleep mode

                    LOL seems like KM is checking out the forum

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                    • Ziggy
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                      • 692

                      #11
                      Re: More i-series problems

                      Originally posted by KMFLT3CH
                      Just released today...


                      C5372 (CPU temperature failure) may occur during PC printing or low power/sleep mode.

                      CAUSE: G00-K8 firmware contained a change designed to reduce the noise output of the printer.
                      This was accomplished by turning off the CPU cooling fan during low power and sleep mode.
                      A side effect of disabling the CPU cooling fan is the generation of C5372 errors.

                      SOLUTION: It is NOT recommended that holes be drilled into the back panels of the printer.
                      Many notice that the rear exhaust grill is not aligned with the fan vent in the RF shield, this is intentional and does not affect the CPU cooling fan's performance.
                      (lol)
                      The offset of the exhaust grill reduces the noise level of the CPU fan.


                      To resolve the intermittent C5372 errors, apply the countermeasure firmware below.
                      As a countermeasure, the FAN will not turn off even in low power mode or sleep mode after applying this firmware (GG1-RB)

                      Occurrence models / Countermeasure firmware
                      bizhub C4050i/C3350i, C4051i/C3351i .... GG1-RB
                      bizhub C4000i/C3300i, C4001i/C3301i .... GG1-RB
                      bizhub C3320i, C3321i .... GG1-RB
                      bizhub 4750i/4050i, 4751i/4051i .... GG1-RB
                      bizhub 4700i, 4701i .... GG1-RB

                      *Periodic FW scheduled to be released in May will also include the same countermeasures as GG1-RB*

                      For the customer who prefers to stop CPU FAN, it is required to set the following software SW to disable the countermeasure:

                      A function to turn ON/OFF the CPU FAN during low power and sleep mode
                      Software SW No. 189 (bit7)
                      Hex: 00 (Enable [default]) FAN is turned ON in low power/sleep mode
                      Hex: 80 (Disable) FAN is turned OFF in low power/sleep mode
                      Just curious where did you find this on the KM site? I cant find it

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                      • tsbservice
                        Field tech

                        Site Contributor
                        5,000+ Posts
                        • May 2007
                        • 7971

                        #12
                        Re: More i-series problems

                        Originally posted by Markks
                        Just curious where did you find this on the KM site? I cant find it
                        I can send it to you though mine isn't from MKM US site. Let me know. BR
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                        • Ziggy
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                          #13
                          Re: More i-series problems

                          Originally posted by tsbservice
                          I can send it to you though mine isn't from MKM US site. Let me know. BR
                          I sent you my email via PM

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                          • stronghold
                            Technician
                            • Apr 2023
                            • 38

                            #14
                            I hope this helps.
                            <Bug fix> Power Control CPU2(LPPP) and MFP Controller BOOT program FW for C5372 (CPU temperature failure)





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                            [Download File Name]
                            FW_ACKN0Y0-F000-GXX-27.exe
                            FW_AA7N0Y0-F000-GXX-27.exe
                            FW_AA2J0Y0-F000-GXX-42.exe
                            FW_ACV70Y0-F000-GXX-27.exe
                            FW_AC740Y0-F000-GXX-41.exe
                            FW_AC770Y0-F000-GXX-43.exe
                            FW_A93E0Y0-F000-GXX-37.exe
                            FW_AAJT0Y0-F000-GXX-32.exe
                            FW_ACT90Y0-F000-GXX-22.exe
                            FW_ACTA0Y0-F000-GXX-18.exe
                            FW_ACM10Y0-F000-GXX-24.exe
                            PRI_DLKM_BT2414590EN_**.docx

                            2. What changed

                            1. Optimize the voltage applied to the CPU and reduce the heat generated by the CPU.

                            3. Cautions and Restrictions

                            *This special FW only updates the Power Control CPU2 FW in the CPU board.

                            After updating the FW, please check the version of “Power Control CPU2” is updated in service mode.

                            *If turning OFF the main power during the FW update, the machine won’t boot up. CPU board must be replaced.

                            Please make sure not to turn OFF the main power during the FW update.

                            4. How to install

                            * USB stick

                            * Remote FW update using such as WWRSPF and Fleet RMM, etc.

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                            • copier tech
                              Field Supervisor

                              5,000+ Posts
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 8132

                              #15
                              Konica Minolta always over engineer the electronic / digital / software side of their devices, paranoid about counter resets, preventing us from swapping boards to narrow down or resolve an error or fault.

                              If you compare to Ricoh it's very rare to get these sort of software error / crashes. Yet if you want to reset the main counters all you do is replace the NVram chips which are cheap & can be bought from Ricoh.


                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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