ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

[Hansoon]

Not being a KyoGuy I have two questions about the fuser of the ECOSYS P2040dn.

1) Is it worth the trouble to replace the film only with after market films?
2) Any instructions please how to remove the fuser unit? I have never seen this printer before, but must go to a remote customer and like to avoid embarrassing situations. Thanks

Hans

[richs]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Not being a KyoGuy I have two questions about the fuser of the ECOSYS P2040dn.

1) Is it worth the trouble to replace the film only with after market films?
2) Any instructions please how to remove the fuser unit? I have never seen this printer before, but must go to a remote customer and like to avoid embarrassing situations. Thanks

Hans

Check youtube .Videos there.Some say replacing film works and other don't.

[blackcat4866]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

The main problem with those fusers is the teflon sheet, between the heater and the film. We were a dealer, so we just submitted everything for warranty.

Some of the folks here say removing the teflon sheet, and applying a different lubricant works (like the HP LJ4000 fusers, no teflon sheet), I've never tried it myself.

When the teflon sheet is mostly intact, I have cleaned then applied Toshiba fuser film oil, and it works in the short term. In these cases, I always ordered the new fuser, so it didn't have to last very long. I don't really know how it would last.

It's disappointing that so many manufacturers have chosen to use this technology. =^..^=

[PiniuBudyniu]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Not worth repairing. Tried. Used many different parts and oils / grease. Short term solution. Europe has extended warranty due to fuser failures, so we push everything back. Last month one of Kyo reps told me, this machines are being killed by Kyo, because even newer FK are sh*t.

[ebulich]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Have done numerous repairs of these machines and have them back up and running with little issue. The hardest part for me in Australia was getting the grease. I use UniFlor 8172 which is freakishly expensive. I strip all the teflon sheet off. Clean everything with platenclene. Smear ample grease across the guide and re assemble the fuser.

I re-use the OEM Kyo fixing sleeve. Have never had to replace the sleeve.

Don't purchase any of the Chinese fuser greases, they are all rubbish.

Its a 30 minute job, the longest part is cleaning off all the silicon oil during the tear down of the fuser. I also clean the inside of the fixing film with a rag soaked well with platenclene.

There are numerous videos on youtube on removing the fuser unit.

Good luck.

[copier tech]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Not being a KyoGuy I have two questions about the fuser of the ECOSYS P2040dn.

1) Is it worth the trouble to replace the film only with after market films?
2) Any instructions please how to remove the fuser unit? I have never seen this printer before, but must go to a remote customer and like to avoid embarrassing situations. Thanks

Hans

Since this is a remote client I wouldn't risk after market parts.

Here's the service manual.

https://mega.nz/file/MBknmR6A#sh7qNnQUmvdfzKmWH8uhz_285Dyt7nzixf-XgJTgElI

[JR2ALTA]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

The main problem with those fusers is the teflon sheet, between the heater and the film. We were a dealer, so we just submitted everything for warranty.

Some of the folks here say removing the teflon sheet, and applying a different lubricant works (like the HP LJ4000 fusers, no teflon sheet), I've never tried it myself.

When the teflon sheet is mostly intact, I have cleaned then applied Toshiba fuser film oil, and it works in the short term. In these cases, I always ordered the new fuser, so it didn't have to last very long. I don't really know how it would last.

It's disappointing that so many manufacturers have chosen to use this technology. =^..^=

Hey BC, I enjoyed our dinner last year in Novi! I would like to blame manufacturers, too, but as I understand the move from heat "rollers" to "belts" is a result of holy bible Energy Star mandates. Is this true?

[blackcat4866]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

I enjoyed our dinner, too.

That I don't know. I do know that trademarks play a huge role in what technology is used in any particular machine. I was working on Canon in the 90's when they were using the ceramic drums. They were rated for an astounding 2M images, and they could do it too ... if your enduser didn't reach into the machine with sharp implements. And they were crazy expensive: $2,000+ USD. Only Canon & Kyocera used them. When they came down is size, they also came down in price ... with the same caveat: they're easy to scratch.

When I was complaining to the Toshiba Tech Rep about the crappy Toshiba film fusers, he said that the manufacturer is "committed" to using this technology. =^..^=

[Hansoon]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Thanks guys.
How does this printer know when the toner cartridge is empty? Chips, sensors?

Hans

[Larhal]

Re: ECOSYS P2040dn fuser

Thanks guys.
How does this printer now when the toner cartridge is empty? Chips, sensors?

Hans

Combination of the toner chip count and the developer level sensor

[pclogicnz]

Does anyone know if the fuser unit for the replacement printer for this model is the same or a better model? the PA4000X is the replacement model.

[KYO_OEM]

FYI,
Common for all models
The FK unit would modified
we`ll see if it works better

FK-127x.jpg

[tmaged]

FYI,
Common for all models
The FK unit would modified
we`ll see if it works better

FK-127x.jpg

Thanks for the info. I've been wondering if they have made any changes to these units.

[tonertech24]

Hey guys, great thread, just what I needed – got a customer visit coming up for a P2040dn chewing paper, and I have a bad feeling it's the fuser. Thanks Hansoon for asking and copier tech for the manual link!

Reading through here – yeah, same old story with these FK-1150/1270 units. Tried rebuilding films on similar models a couple of times myself – what a pain. Totally agree with blackcat4866, that damn Teflon sheet is evil.

The tip about UniFlor 8172 (thanks, ebulich!) is interesting, might look into sourcing some if I get really stuck. But yeah, those cheap aftermarket films/greases... nah, like PiniuBudyniu said, they don't last, and I don't want the angry customer call-back. Especially for a remote site like Hansoon mentioned. Probably easier just to swap the whole unit if the budget allows.

By the way, saw the post from KYO_OEM about the updated FK-127x. Anyone actually installed one of these yet? Did Kyocera *really* fix anything, or is it just marketing and they'll die just as fast?

And yeah, those C6xxx codes on these fusers are basically expected at this point.

Anyway, appreciate all the info and shared experience here! Helps figure out the best approach.