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  • JasonW
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 52

    #1

    Insane copy quality problem, not hardware - Sample Included

    This is the craziest copy quality problem I've ever experienced. The copier is a KM-4035.

    The exact same "tire tread / wave" background pattern appears in the EXACT same size and pattern regardless of paper size. I printed several internal print reports from the copier on letter, legal, and ledger paper and the pattern is the exact same size. Its _always_ on the lead edge of the paper. Whenever I print 5 pages, the first page is always the worst, and pages 2-5 still have the same ugly background at the beginning of the print.

    I have replaced the fuser rollers, charge wire assembly, transfer roller, developer unit, and tested three different drums. All show the exact same problem.

    What really confuses me is that if i print 3 letter, 3 letter-R, 3 legal, 3 ledger, i can stack the pages ontop of each other and the problem is always the exact same size and pattern on the first 5 inches of the pages then clears up a lot less noticeable after that.



  • stcdispatcher

    #2
    Try cleaning the laser unit glass with a dry soft towel and this should take care of the problem.

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    • Jimbo1
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Mar 2008
      • 845

      #3
      It's the transfer roller. Clean or replace and make sure your firmware is up to date.
      "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

      Cdr. William Riker

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      • JasonW
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 52

        #4
        Brand new transfer roller.... shouldn't be that.

        Its not the optics at all, it appears on all print jobs and even when i print the counter reports.

        So confused

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        • bsm2
          IT Manager

          25,000+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 29925

          #5
          spots

          laser unit most likely

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22999

            #6
            You might take a look at the fuser temperature. The fuser roller is the right size to give you ~5" of pattern. If the temperature is took high it will collect toner from each print, then re-print it on the leading edge of the first page.
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • copytechman
              Senior Tech

              Site Contributor
              500+ Posts
              • Nov 2008
              • 929

              #7
              Have u stopped a print b4 it hits the fuser to verify that it's coming from the drum area? That should narrow it down some!

              Regards!
              A.

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              • JasonW
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 52

                #8
                Ill stop the print to make sure its not fuser related.. I think you may be right about the fuser.

                Its always the same 5inch pattern, starting at the lead edge, regardless of paper size. When i print 11x17, the first 5inches are bad then it clears up significantly better immediately after 5".

                The only things it could possibly be are Fuser, Drum, Charge, Developer, & Transfer roller right? I know its not the optics b/c it happens on print jobs. Firmware is up to date.

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                • kjg
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 111

                  #9
                  I have seen this exact problem on a 4035.
                  Is this machine in a cool office or is it rather humid where it is? I don't believe the drum temperature is stable. I know these do not have drum heaters but if the drums are cold or the conditions are humid,the can pose this type of problem. try running 50 to 100 pages through machine in duplex mode and see of problem clears up especially on second side. I believe you should see improvement. I it clears up, look at environment change.

                  Keep us up to date.

                  I hate humidity in the south.....

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                  • kjg
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 111

                    #10
                    Also, I noticed repeating drum marks. Try a drum you have tested in another machine that you know is working.

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                    • KyoceraChris
                      Trusted Tech

                      100+ Posts
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 112

                      #11
                      i've had that same issue before, i cleaned the corona grid and still had the problem. Then i preformed a drum refresh and it took care of the issue. Mind you i dident replace any parts..
                      you gunna eat yo corn bread?!?

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                      • aodtech
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 194

                        #12
                        It looks like you're getting a variety of suggestions for each consumable. There was a firmware update a while back that took care of this problem. I have had the same exact problem with a 4035 and firmware fixed it.

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                        • Craigdumass
                          Technician

                          50+ Posts
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 61

                          #13
                          I think its your dimm

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                          • dyodyo
                            Technician
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 28

                            #14
                            hi there! my friend,this kind of copy is not due to laser. because if its from the laser unit, it will give you light copy. you said jasonW you replaced drum, dev unit, transfer roller, fusing section and charge assy but still the same prob. try looking at the high voltage board. maybe the contact is corroded, clean that contact and put some contact grease.

                            hope this will help. good luck buddy!

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                            • n25an
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1030

                              #15
                              the answer

                              ok... look... run a copy... then change the charger...
                              run the copy again...

                              if you see the marks...

                              take out the drum and find the marks...

                              if you see the marks on the drum that correspond to the tire tracks...

                              replace the drum...

                              thats it... bad charger or bad drum...

                              if you have done all of that then the problem is that your fuser has the marks burnt into it...
                              Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
                              I do this stuff on the weekends too

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