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  • kyotechnz
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    • Mar 2019
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    #1

    C450 broken scanner wire.

    Trying to find a part number for the front scanner wire but they are not shown in the parts manual.
    Does anyone know it and if you can get one?

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  • KMFLT3CH
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    #2
    I don't see it in the C450i parts manual, but it is there in the C458 and C451i parts manuals:

    A161275113 - Wire /Front
    A161275213 - Wire /Rear

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    • copyman
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      #3
      I see same as you did there isn't a part # for the scanner wire and grayed out on parts diagram. Weird, maybe Kon/Min thought it would never break or it's not replaceable? I haven't replaced a scanner wire in a long time, I have to look but are they still braided steel cables? Really hard for that type of cable to break. It would suck if it turns out these cables are weak and start to break, especially with no part # in manual! Curious what the meter count is, hopefully it's real high?

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      • kingarthur
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        #4
        This is from the parts manual, item 6 is what you want

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        • KMFLT3CH
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          #5
          Originally posted by kingarthur
          This is from the parts manual, item 6 is what you want
          I believe OP meant to write C450i not C450, check the white sticker underneath the glass.

          Also the picture they posted shows a scanner section with a slit glass which the old C450 did not have (mid/late 2000s model). That machine would drag the original across the entire glass and push it up and out the right side of the ADF....terrible design.

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          • tsbservice
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            #6
            That happens when they don't care about "i"
            Make some 2 decades difference.
            In this thread I would assume you're both correct 😜
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            • kingarthur
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              #7
              Originally posted by KMFLT3CH

              I believe OP meant to write C450i not C450, check the white sticker underneath the glass.

              Also the picture they posted shows a scanner section with a slit glass which the old C450 did not have (mid/late 2000s model). That machine would drag the original across the entire glass and push it up and out the right side of the ADF....terrible design.
              Well spotted, it makes a world off difference asking for the right information....
              Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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              • femaster
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                #8
                Originally posted by KMFLT3CH
                I don't see it in the C450i parts manual, but it is there in the C458 and C451i parts manuals:

                A161275113 - Wire /Front
                A161275213 - Wire /Rear
                Unfortunately, even the latest US price guide (from Jan 2025) doesn't list the C450i under those part numbers.

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                • tsbservice
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by femaster

                  Unfortunately, even the latest US price guide (from Jan 2025) doesn't list the C450i under those part numbers.

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                  Maybe because they're omitted it from parts list by mistake. I can't believe C450i scanner wires are any different from others but I DO believe they will correct parts list at some point.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • kingarthur
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tsbservice

                    Maybe because they're omitted it from parts list by mistake. I can't believe C450i scanner wires are any different from others but I DO believe they will correct parts list at some point.
                    I've checked the PMN on Infohub, there's no update....so far
                    Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                    • kingarthur
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                      #11
                      Just looked at the C451i parts list - same device
                      A161275113 Wire /Front
                      A161275213 Wire /Rear
                      Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                      • blackcat4866
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                        #12
                        Have we figured out yet if it's a C450 or a C450i yet? ... even if it makes no difference with the part?
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • tsbservice
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          Have we figured out yet if it's a C450 or a C450i yet? ... even if it makes no difference with the part?
                          BC, yes it is C450i see KMFLT3CH post about white sticker where is written C450i and slit for DF.
                          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                          Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                          • Ziggy
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                            #14
                            If you do get the correct scanner wires good luck on getting the jig for the mirrors. I had to restring a c650i and the only way I could get the mirror jigs is to get SSD involved. They said that they have one set that they send out on loan when needed.

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                            • Synthohol
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Markks
                              If you do get the correct scanner wires good luck on getting the jig for the mirrors. I had to restring a c650i and the only way I could get the mirror jigs is to get SSD involved. They said that they have one set that they send out on loan when needed.
                              100% the KM product specialist had to come out to use it as there was only 2 jigs on the whole east coast and they had to sign them out.
                              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                              The medication helps though...

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