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  • copytechtrouble
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Nov 2020
    • 112

    #1

    [Misc] Issues with the latest S7 Firmware

    hello all,
    as some of you may be aware konica has issued a new firmware version, S7.
    along with a lot of fixes and additions this version also adds some mandatory changes to comply with EU regulations. it requires a new admin password to be set at machine setup which must have 15 charters and some other security related updates.

    we've pushed it out to a few machines in the field and found out pretty quickly that it breaks the driver connection to the copier, no one could print after firmware update.
    we had to update the drivers on each pc to the latest v3 universal driver on the develop site, version 3.9.1203.0.
    it has also caused issues with the install of papercut hive onto any machine with the new S7 installed. we kept getting a connection error on any machine with S7 installed but it would work perfectly with the R versions of firmware.

    just putting it out there as a heads up for anyone that may be thinking of installing it. maybe hold off for a bit...
    Last edited by copytechtrouble; 4 days ago.
  • Duplicator
    IT Manager

    250+ Posts
    • May 2022
    • 255

    #2
    Originally posted by copytechtrouble
    hello all,
    as some of you may be aware konica has issued a new firmware version, S7.
    along with a lot of fixes and additions this version is also adds some mandatory changes to comply with EU regulations. it requires a new admin password to be set at machine setup which must have 15 charters and some other security related updates.

    we've pushed it out to a few machines in the field and found out pretty quickly that it breaks the driver connection to the copier, no one could print after firmware update.
    we had to update the drivers on each pc to the latest v3 universal driver on the develop site, version 3.9.1203.0.
    it has also caused issues with the install of papercut hive onto any machine with the new S7 installed. we kept getting a connection error on any machine with S7 installed but it would work perfectly with the R versions of firmware.

    just putting it out there as a heads up for anyone that may be thinking of installing it. maybe hold off for a bit...
    That is some good information. Could you post the change log PDF that comes with the firmware? We haven't gotten it yet in our region and it would be nice to see what is coming.
    Worked in IT for 12 years from Helpdesk up to System Administrator. Now working as the IT Manager at a copier company for the last 4 years.

    If I helped you out, please give me a thumbs up! It helps my reputation.

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    • tsbservice
      Field tech

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      5,000+ Posts
      • May 2007
      • 8043

      #3
      Duplicator You don't need it.
      I was told to don't instal S7 unless it's unavoidable because it's quick cooked and may cause all sorts of problems.
      Usually I don't care and jump on new firmware as soon as I can but now common sense warn me to not rush.

      copytechtrouble Thank you very much for this post. I do miss giving reputation points feature of old Bulletin Board.
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      • copytechtrouble
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Nov 2020
        • 112

        #4
        Originally posted by Duplicator

        That is some good information. Could you post the change log PDF that comes with the firmware? We haven't gotten it yet in our region and it would be nice to see what is coming.
        yes good point i should have added it to the original post. its a fairly subsantial update.
        ive added it here for you for some light bedtime reading... 😉
        Attached Files

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        • Duplicator
          IT Manager

          250+ Posts
          • May 2022
          • 255

          #5
          Originally posted by tsbservice
          Duplicator You don't need it.
          I was told to don't instal S7 unless it's unavoidable because it's quick cooked and may cause all sorts of problems.
          Usually I don't care and jump on new firmware as soon as I can but now common sense warn me to not rush.
          Oh good...just like RF in the states.... They told us not to install that one and pulled it from the portal....

          Same here but now I vet them all on a machine at the main office. We use Internet ISW for the techs so they always have the latest version we want to deploy vs what Konica hosts.
          Worked in IT for 12 years from Helpdesk up to System Administrator. Now working as the IT Manager at a copier company for the last 4 years.

          If I helped you out, please give me a thumbs up! It helps my reputation.

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          • Ziggy
            Senior Tech

            Site Contributor
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            500+ Posts
            • Feb 2018
            • 799

            #6
            I've heard that new machines are coming out with S7 pre-installed

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            • Esron Thomas
              Service Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Oct 2024
              • 59

              #7
              Originally posted by tsbservice
              Duplicator You don't need it.
              I was told to don't instal S7 unless it's unavoidable because it's quick cooked and may cause all sorts of problems.
              Usually I don't care and jump on new firmware as soon as I can but now common sense warn me to not rush.

              copytechtrouble Thank you very much for this post. I do miss giving reputation points feature of old Bulletin Board.
              Thank you for the information, I was told to use this firmware after a customer experiencing issues with scan to email on Ms 365 after enforcing MFA on their email accounts, they can't scan to emails now so after knowing this, I might give it some thought first.

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4751

                #8
                I also don't jump and install new F/W right away. I've leared over the years "if it's not broken, don't fix it"

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                • Max
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 563

                  #9
                  Originally posted by copytechtrouble
                  hello all,
                  as some of you may be aware konica has issued a new firmware version, S7.
                  along with a lot of fixes and additions this version is also adds some mandatory changes to comply with EU regulations. it requires a new admin password to be set at machine setup which must have 15 charters and some other security related updates.

                  we've pushed it out to a few machines in the field and found out pretty quickly that it breaks the driver connection to the copier, no one could print after firmware update.
                  we had to update the drivers on each pc to the latest v3 universal driver on the develop site, version 3.9.1203.0.
                  it has also caused issues with the install of papercut hive onto any machine with the new S7 installed. we kept getting a connection error on any machine with S7 installed but it would work perfectly with the R versions of firmware.

                  just putting it out there as a heads up for anyone that may be thinking of installing it. maybe hold off for a bit...
                  We use UPD driver and no problem so far. It's quite convenient as one driver fits all sorta thing. It communicates with the copier and picks the correct model. But had loads of trouble with Microsoft IPP driver after S7. Not surprising of course.

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                  • Slammers
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Just my 2 cents on this.

                    I have been deploying S7 this last week on a few machines and I have not experienced this issue at all.

                    No issues with the PSTI password requriements - the admin password that was on the machine persisted and was useable on screen and via web interface after update.

                    One client is running PCL C220!!! drivers on their server and the C250i is working perfectly. SW 25 is set to 40 for FV 2.3 on this machine.
                    We do not use marketplace and the machines do not have any LKs installed.

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                    • Duplicator
                      IT Manager

                      250+ Posts
                      • May 2022
                      • 255

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Esron Thomas

                      Thank you for the information, I was told to use this firmware after a customer experiencing issues with scan to email on Ms 365 after enforcing MFA on their email accounts, they can't scan to emails now so after knowing this, I might give it some thought first.
                      They are probably enforcing OAuth logins. For that, you will have to use this firmware since it adds OAuth to the machine.

                      Microsoft is going to force that choice on everyone in March (was September but it sounds like they rescheduled).
                      Worked in IT for 12 years from Helpdesk up to System Administrator. Now working as the IT Manager at a copier company for the last 4 years.

                      If I helped you out, please give me a thumbs up! It helps my reputation.

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                      • Esron Thomas
                        Service Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Oct 2024
                        • 59

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Duplicator

                        They are probably enforcing OAuth logins. For that, you will have to use this firmware since it adds OAuth to the machine.

                        Microsoft is going to force that choice on everyone in March (was September but it sounds like they rescheduled).
                        Okay then I have no choice but update update the firmware to sort out the issue

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                        • doinbox
                          Service Manager

                          100+ Posts
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 116

                          #13
                          I only ever use the Universal PCL driver as I've never had a single issue with it but all the others I have

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