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  • Acme
    Trusted Tech
    • Jan 2013
    • 155

    #166
    Re: Gun Control

    As usual, The Government doesn't appreciate competition.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/us...BRF.html?_r=2&

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    • HenryT2
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      • Apr 2010
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      #167
      Re: Gun Control

      Just happened to see this on MSN ...


      By Sarah Mahoney, Reuters


      Residents of a Maine town are expected to vote Monday on whether each household should be required to own a firearm, a decision that has thrust the tiny town of Byron into the heated national debate on gun control.
      The vote is scheduled to take place on Monday evening in a potentially rancorous annual town meeting for the western Maine town's 140 residents and will be largely symbolic.
      The town's head selectman says the vast majority of households in Byron already have at least one gun, and a requirement to possess guns and ammunition would be unenforceable because Maine law bars municipalities from legislating on firearms.
      "It was never my intention to force anyone to own a gun who doesn't want to. My purpose was to make a statement in support of the Second Amendment (to the U.S. Constitution)," said Head Selectman Anne Simmons-Edmund, who proposed the ordinance.


      The December shooting rampage that left 26 people dead at a Connecticut elementary school has reignited the national debate over guns. In response, some states have been prompted to tighten gun laws, while other states have sought to keep federal gun measures from being applied within their borders.
      Byron is not the only town to mull such a measure. Last week, selectmen in the Maine town of Sabbatus, about 60 miles from Byron, voted against putting a similar proposal before town residents.


      In Georgia, a city leader in Nelson has proposed an ordinance calling on every head of household to have a gun as a way to keep down crime in the city of 1,300 residents, which employs only a single police officer.

      The Nelson city council is expected to vote on the gun ownership ordinance on April 1.
      In Byron, Simmons-Edmund, who is also a police officer in nearby Dixfield, said the measure reflects community concern about the remote area's rising crime rates, which she said have nearly tripled in the last year.
      Not all in the town were supportive of the move.
      "It gives new meaning to the term 'March Madness,'" said Byron resident Philip Paquette, who has spent the past three decades as a Merchant Marine. "She is infringing on the rights of townspeople. I'm a hunter and own guns, and I have a right to. People also have a right not to own guns."
      Simmons-Edmund says she got the idea after a suggestion from her father and fellow Byron resident Bruce Simmons.
      "Five days ago, I would have predicted this article would pass," Simmons-Edmund said. "But we've gotten so much media attention, nothing would surprise me. This town has never been so closely scrutinized. It's up to the residents to decide now. And if they shoot it down, I am totally fine with it."
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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        • Dec 2009
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        #168
        Re: Gun Control

        Mandatory gun ownership in the guise of public protection is a dumb small town idea that infringes an individuals right not to own guns. It is as anti American as the those who cling religously to the the right to own guns under the Second Amendment.

        Small towns might be able to pass such legislation but it would be impossible to enforce in court against a well funded objector.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #169
          Re: Gun Control

          The Colorado Senate on Monday gave final approval to a series of gun restrictions including expanded background checks, as it tied gun control to mass shootings in the state and elsewhere. The Democratic gun control package in Colorado is being watched nationally to see how a politically moderate state with a gun-loving past responds to the recent shootings in suburban Denver and in Newtown, Conn.
          Democratic Senate Leader Morgan Carroll said lawmakers have no excuse after those mass shootings not to tighten gun rights. Her district includes the Aurora movie theater where 12 people were killed.
          "If we fail to do a commonsense measure ... then shame on us," said Carroll, arguing for a bill to expand background checks to private and online gun sales.
          Colorado senators were taking final votes Monday on five gun-control measures - including magazine ammunition limits and expanded background checks - that won initial approval Friday after more than 12 hours of debate. Three of the five bills had passed by midday.
          Republicans tried in vain to stop the package, which also includes a gun ban for people accused of domestic violence crimes and a ban on online-only gun training for a concealed-carry permits.
          Two proposals in the Democratic gun package were pulled last week because of lack of support. Those were a liability measure for gun owners and a concealed-weapons ban on college campuses.

          Colorado Senate give final OK to gun control bills - WSAV: News, Weather, and Sports for Savannah, GA

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          • MR Bill
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            • Jan 2010
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            #170
            Re: Gun Control

            Saleservice guy.

            Un american to believe in the 2nd admendment? Are you out of you mine?

            I think the first admendment for people that think like you do needs to be gotten rid of. How's that. Kinda dumb don't you think?

            Un American. ?

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              #171
              Re: Gun Control

              Mr Bill, it is totally un-American to force upon someone gun ownership!

              Under the 2A you might have the right to own a gun but you do not have the right to make gun ownership compulsory.

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              • MR Bill
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                #172
                Re: Gun Control

                I agree that they don't need to pass this law making you own a gun. I agree.

                But you said it is ANTI AMERICAN as those who cling religously to the right to own guns under the 2A.

                Right.

                You sound like Barak Obama.

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  #173
                  Re: Gun Control

                  Mr Bill, you are correct. It is every American's right to own a gun, regardless of how far many people want to interpret that right beyond the original intentions of the 2A.

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                  • Shadow1
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                    #174
                    Re: Gun Control

                    Originally posted by MR Bill
                    Saleservice guy.

                    Un american to believe in the 2nd admendment? Are you out of you mine?

                    I think the first admendment for people that think like you do needs to be gotten rid of. How's that. Kinda dumb don't you think?

                    Un American. ?
                    You're being schooled on what is un-American by a non-American. Dumb is redundant at this point.

                    Unfortunately he's also partly right - Requiring gun ownership is just as dumb as ObamaCare requiring everyone to buy insurance.

                    That's not to say I don't think it's a good idea for every household to have a gun, so long as they know how to use it. The town should have passed an ordinance encouraging everyone to own a gun, instituted The Castle Doctrine. (A man's home is his castle - if you find someone who doesn't belong there, and they appear dangerous for any reason, shoot first and ask questions later.), and put in some liability protections for legal gun owners.
                    73 DE W5SSJ

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #175
                      registeredGun control: Maine town rejects mandatory gun ownership | World | News | National Post

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                      • Tonerbomb
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                        #176
                        Re: Gun Control

                        And now here in Bugaha, our 1 term mayor that survived 1 recall and is running for reelection, Has announced that he proposes banning assult weapons and high capacity mags. This is how he plans to make the city safe, Oh what about the 30+ murders in the last 12 months.....I'm willling to bet none of the murders used an assult weapon..... The Feds haven't banned them, The state hasn't banned them, but the mayor of a city called Bugaha thinks he can ban them.....hmmmmm
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                        • Shadow1
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                          #177
                          Re: Gun Control

                          If you'd done your research and knew what you were talking about, you'd know the ordinance was proposed to open discussion about the issue and to make a point. It was expected that it would fail.

                          When you live in America, and fully understand that Americans have fought and died to protect our rights and freedoms, then you might understand that a right is not something you vote on. Now quit talking out your ass about things you have no knowledge on.
                          73 DE W5SSJ

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                          • SalesServiceGuy
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                            #178
                            Re: Gun Control

                            ... as reported by the National Post, Canada's National newspaper, presumably with more journalistic resources than any of us on this blog.

                            Is "Swamp People" your favorite tv show? It is filmed in Louisiana, close to M'ssippi.

                            Is Bugaha in Omaha? Other than making a point about gun control, which I am sure some citizens will applaud, the chances of success are very slim.
                            Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 03-13-2013, 02:20 AM.

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                            • Shadow1
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                              #179
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                              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                              ... with more journalistic resources
                              At least you didn't say "Journalistic Integrity" That's an oxymoron of epic proportions.

                              ...and I'm more of a Sci-Fi fan. Dr. Who, Continuum, and Being Human would round out my top 3.
                              73 DE W5SSJ

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                              • Tonerbomb
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                                #180
                                Re: Gun Control

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                Is Bugaha in Omaha? Other than making a point about gun control, which I am sure some citizens will applaud, the chances of success are very slim.
                                you would be correct about Bugaha. Hopefully the city gets rid of the nutjob mayor.
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