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  • HenryT2
    Senior Tech

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    • Apr 2010
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    #241
    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by Darren King
    It is a little scary being beside you. lol
    HEY ... With OBLAMEA and the other dems in office ... it's scary here too !
    "The Serenity Prayer" . . .
    God grant me the serenity to accept stupid people , the courage to not waste my time and energy on them , and the wisdom to know that I cannot fix STUPID .

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      • Dec 2009
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      #242
      Re: Gun Control

      Jim Carrey fires back at gun-control video criticism | World | News | Toronto Sun

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      • Shadow1
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        #243
        Re: Gun Control

        I like Jim Carrey's movies - I think he's a talented actor. He's certainly made a lot of money doing it. I also think neither his talent nor his money lend any more credence to his opinion - less in fact - they both serve to insulate him from the real world.

        I'll still watch his movies, but if he doesn't like our culture he can go back to Canada where he came from - you two will get along quite nicely.
        73 DE W5SSJ

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        • Iowatech
          Not a service manager

          2,500+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 3930

          #244
          Re: Gun Control

          Well, that was lame.
          That's a shame, too. Jim Carrey is a really good actor, he should be able to do way better than that if he wants to. Oh, well.

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          • fixthecopier
            ALIEN OVERLORD

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            • Apr 2008
            • 4713

            #245
            Re: Gun Control

            Originally posted by Shadow1

            I'll still watch his movies, but if he doesn't like our culture he can go back to Canada where he came from - you two will get along quite nicely.
            When Americans tell people who do not think like they do to leave, it reminds me that true freedom loving Americans really want a Fascist or Communist style country where only 1 set of ideas is worthy of discussion because all others are wrong. It is usually due to frustration that the other side has valid points to make that they don't want to hear.

            Can you define what "Our Culture" is?
            The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              #246
              Re: Gun Control

              If I was to define what American culture is, I will get jumped by 20 copier ninjas!

              But obviously, much more than any other major country in the world, it is a country where many citizens have a deep connection to fire arms.

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              • MR Bill
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                • Jan 2010
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                #247
                Re: Gun Control

                Very generous country don't you think. Give more aid to other countries. Bush gave $15 billion to some of the Afican nations to help with aids education. Give aid to countries the even hate us.

                I guess we are just stupid also.

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                • Shadow1
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                  #248
                  Re: Gun Control

                  Originally posted by fixthecopier
                  Can you define what "Our Culture" is?
                  Guns, God, and Fried Chicken.

                  Wait... that's Mississippi.
                  73 DE W5SSJ

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                  • fixthecopier
                    ALIEN OVERLORD

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                    • Apr 2008
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                    #249
                    Re: Gun Control

                    Originally posted by MR Bill
                    Very generous country don't you think. Give more aid to other countries. Bush gave $15 billion to some of the Afican nations to help with aids education. Give aid to countries the even hate us.

                    I guess we are just stupid also.

                    Do you have a list of which of those countries hate us, or are you assuming that they all do. And in a nation that calls itself Christian, wouldn't helping less fortunate fall under the category of "What Jesus Would Do", instead of "we are just stupid". But then I was making an assumption you believe in Jesus, I apologize if I was mistaken.
                    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #250
                      Re: Gun Control

                      The USA, like many countries, including Canada and China, gives foreign aid both for humanitarian reasons and as foreign affairs policy. Sometimes, this aid is in the form of weapons and military logistical support.

                      The US State Dept when giving foreign aid is seeking to influence other nations into cooperating with US policy. These nations have become dependent on this $ aid to run parts of their economy. Those countries who publicly claim to "hate" the USA, like Palestine, continue to receive US aid when they adjust their public policies to better reflect US interests.

                      The problem is for the USA which has such a massive public debt and crumbling social infrastructure (bridges, roads, etc) to maintain this foreign aid at current funding levels.

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #251
                        Re: Gun Control

                        Gun control: Obama invokes memory of Newtown in emotional plea

                        President says US should be ashamed if Newtown was being forgotten already and rejects criticism he has delayed on reform


                        Gun control: Obama invokes memory of Newtown in emotional plea | World news | guardian.co.uk

                        In a speech at the White House, attended by parents of gun victims, he said bluntly that the United States should be ashamed if the horror of Newtown was already being forgotten.

                        "Tears are not enough. Expressions of sympathy are not enough. Speeches are not enough. We have cried enough. We have known enough heartbreak. What we are proposing is not radical. It is not taking away anyone's gun rights. It is something if we are serious we will do. Now is the time to turn that heartbreak into something real."

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                        • MR Bill
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                          #252
                          Re: Gun Control

                          Well fixthecopier, I don't have a list of the countries that hate us. But you know there are some in the middle east that do. Egypt?? And I'm just assuming they hate us. They hate Isreal for sure.

                          And as far as Jesus. We base our dates on him. 2013 AD. Right. BC or AD. So yes I believe he was a great man. Is he the son of Jehovah god? I don't know. I'm not a christain.

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                          • HenryT2
                            Senior Tech

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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #253
                            Re: Gun Control

                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            Gun control: Obama invokes memory of Newtown in emotional plea

                            President says US should be ashamed if Newtown was being forgotten already

                            "Tears are not enough. Expressions of sympathy are not enough. Speeches are not enough. We have cried enough. We have known enough heartbreak. "
                            We have not forgotten Newton ..... or any of the other terrible massacres .

                            It seems the government only wants to keep a few of these current incidents in the news; when is the last time you have heard OBALMEA or any of the current government officials mention 9-11 , or the Oklahoma City bombings ?

                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            Now is the time to turn that heartbreak into something real."
                            I agree completely.
                            Let's quit giving billions and trillions of dollars to countries that don't want us in their backyards , and spend that money on OUR military and get it BACK to the awesome power it used to be, and let's protect OUR COUNTRY !
                            "The Serenity Prayer" . . .
                            God grant me the serenity to accept stupid people , the courage to not waste my time and energy on them , and the wisdom to know that I cannot fix STUPID .

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                            • Tonerbomb
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                              #254
                              Re: Gun Control

                              how about the plan to give out free shotguns in Tuson and Houston????

                              Plan to hand out free shotguns in Tucson stirs debate | Fox News


                              Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                #255
                                Re: Gun Control

                                Gun Violence Costs U.S. Health Care System, Taxpayers Billions Each Year

                                Gun Violence Costs U.S. Health Care System, Taxpayers Billions Each Year


                                In the American conversation, discussion of gun-related violence generally centers on the tragic loss of life or permanent injuries that result. But beneath these headline-grabbing, life-shattering facts are costs measured in vast numbers of dollars.

                                Firearms-related deaths cost the U.S. health care system and economy $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attempted an estimate. The cost of those who survive gun violence came to another $3.7 billion that year, according to the CDC.

                                Since the massacre of 20 children and seven adults in Newtown, Conn., last December, President Barack Obama has pushed for new laws aimed at reducing gun violence. Such an outcome would make a dent in overall American health care spending, said Garen Wintemute, the director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California Davis School of Medicine in Sacramento.
                                "We would save billions of dollars," Wintemute said. "We would realize two gains. One is we would save a lot of money and the other is we would have more resources available for treating injuries of other types."

                                The indirect costs of gun violence on the health care system can be hard to quantify and difficult to isolate from the money spent on preparedness for all kinds of traumatic injuries, in part because of a 1996 law restricting federal health agencies from researching the effects of firearms injuries and deaths.

                                A 2005 law curbed the rights of gun-violence victims, along with city and state governments, from suing firearms manufacturers to recoup these expenses.


                                For a patient with a gunshot wound, a single surgery followed by two days in the intensive care unit runs about $100,000.


                                Bullets are very good at what they're designed to do: cause massive injury to the human body, said Christopher Colwell, the director of the Department of Emergency Medicine at the Denver Health Medical Center.

                                He's especially haunted by one memory at Columbine: a boy, sitting dead, his math book still open on his desk. "These are visions you never lose."

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