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a bullet proof towel would of been a good option. I wonder how many folk with guns to protect them have bullet proof vests as an option, at least for the kidsComment
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Should an extra tax be levied on all weapon and ammo sales to increase revenues to help gov'ts pay for all of the extra police manpower required to control them?
On 10/2012, a Chicago Cook County official has proposed a surtax on the sale of every bullet and firearm in the nation’s second largest county. The tax was proposed as part of the upcoming budget in an effort to quell escalating gun violence in the Chicago area.
The proposal, which is under fire (pardon the pun) from gun rights advocates, includes a 5-cent tax on the sale of every bullet and a $25 tax for the sale of every firearm. If it were to pass, the tax would generate about $1 million in annual revenue.
There’s no indication that slapping taxes on legal behavior prevents illegal behavior. Taxes on booze don’t stop drunks from getting into cars and killing people (or committing other crimes). So let’s call this tax what it really is: a revenue raiser. It’s a sin tax on gun ownership. Whether that’s fair is another story but at least that rationalization for the tax makes sense.
A lot of municipal and state gov'ts are struggling to manage budget shortfalls. There are extra taxes on alcohol and cigarettes, why not guns and ammo? AR15 style rifles, large capacity clips and hollow point bullets could be taxed at a much higher rate.
It is proven that higher taxes, over a long time frame, reduced cigarette consumption, maybe higher taxes can do the same for guns and ammo?Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 02-26-2013, 03:15 AM.Comment
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The Democrats have done such a good job of running Detroit for the last 60 years...
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I would also like to point out the fallacy of "extra police" - It has been extremely well established that when citizens can defend themselves crime rates are lower and less police intervention is required.73 DE W5SSJComment
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Actually, Chicago and Illinois would probably be better served if they would do a better job of even pretending to enforce their current laws. That's the damnedest thing, too, from a state with two former governors in prison.Comment
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Perhaps Chicago and Illinois may not be the greatest examples. That is not the point. Should guns and ammo be taxed just like alcohol and cigarettes to raise funds for municipal services?Comment
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...except you have brought up EXACTLY the point. Government should live within it's means - we don't need more taxes, we need less - and we need a government that quits wasting money on stupid useless things (like foreign aid to countries who will hate us no matter how much we give them)73 DE W5SSJComment
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There is probably little short term chances of raising taxes on guns and ammo due to the uncompromising and some what dogmatic positions Republicans and the NRA force upon USA politics. Some consideration has to be given to the cost of guns and ammo to US society and recovering those costs.Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 02-26-2013, 10:15 PM.Comment
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Should people involved in straw purchases, where guns are bought by individuals for other people who may not be entitled to own them, be prosecuted by the law? I realize in most states there are currently no laws to prevent this.Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 03-05-2013, 05:44 AM.Comment
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... what does "the police loop hole" have to do with straw gun sales?
As best as I can research, "the police loop hole" does not exist in main stream media reporting. It is a fringe interest group than is endorsed by third tier gun and ammo manufacturers who pledge not to sell their goods to gov't organizations that they perceive infringe upon Second Amendment rights.Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 03-05-2013, 06:11 AM.Comment
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Since gun companies sell for profit, i find it hard to believe they will cut their profits to make a point. I couldn't find definitions of what restrictions they are talking about. I was installing a copier at a sporting goods store on base yesterday. it went behind the gun case. The tactical shop and gun case and accessories section were full. I don't think the boycott will hurt them. The thing I noticed was the sign that said there was a 3 day waiting period for purchase of rifles and shotguns. You can leave base and go to Wal-mart and walk out with one, but on base you wait. There are tens of thousands of people on base who own and buy guns and never bitch about it, yet I see civilians lose their mind over waiting 3 days to buy a handgun. I thought it was interesting.
Why do civilians think they should be able to arm themselves with the same things authorities have?
The threat to not sell to certain groups is just for show. having worked for the government, I can tell you that they can get anything through 3rd party contractors. If a local government was on the list of those who they won't sell to, I could set up a company on paper and drop ship any of those products anywhere in America.Last edited by fixthecopier; 03-05-2013, 01:18 PM.The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen HawkingComment
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In 2013, define "Authority"
Seems in all my years that term has always led to abuse of said term.Comment
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Not sure what you mean. It was used to reference law enforcement as was mentioned in the link posted by Iowatech. Unless I got it wrong it was saying that the list of companies would not sell to local governments that prohibit citizens from owning the same wepons as the police. Don't know about you, but I don't want the crackheads in town to be able to buy flash grenades and tear gas canisters.The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen HawkingComment
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" The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday backed President Barack Obama's call to crack down on the clandestine trafficking of firearms, marking the first votes in Congress on gun-control since a school massacre last year prompted calls for action. On a largely party-line vote of 11-7, the Democratic-led committee approved a bill to make it a federal crime to engage in "straw purchasing," or buying of guns on behalf of those who are prohibited from owning them.
"It is designed to prevent criminals from using straw purchasers who can pass a background check and then hand those firearms to criminals," Chairman Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, said in touting his bill. It carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison."
Senate panel backs crackdown on clandestine gun sales - Yahoo! NewsComment
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